The Trashalanche Pokemon Podcast

Vancouver Recap, Abaan Top 8 + General Meta Discussion

Liam Halliburton
Liam:

And, uh, hello and welcome to the Trash Launch Podcast. You know, we've been on a long hiatus. We did record an episode after Henry won San Antonio, but unfortunately my audio was, uh, I don't know, it just didn't get picked up. I, I, I stand by. It wasn't my fault, but I'm not really sure. Well, remember a lot of you guys, that same thing happened after I'm on Baltimore, but it's all good. And it was the exact same issue with the Bond's audio, so we had ample time to fix it, but No worries, no worries. I'll actually just, I know, but we like recorded many successful podcasts between them. So like, it was like, I don't know what to say. Like, I hope this one like actually gets recorded, but like, uh, a lot of people came up to me and said like, why no podcasts like at EIC and at, um, at Bank. So, You know, I'm like really touched. I didn't actually know anyone cared about this podcast. So, uh, sorry about that guys. And even and so bad.'cause in our New Year's episode, we promised to be more consistent and we actually were the least consistent we've ever been in our entire lives. So, I mean, it's obviously we can just go ahead and blame Lame here. All good, bro. All right. The time, the time zone thing is a little, a bit of an issue, but I think that, yeah. Well, I don't know if we really had that, A valid excuse considering lamb pretty much lives in the American Times. yeah. I, I don't like, that doesn't really slide, but just like, take that excuse guys and like keep it pushing please. Thank you. Yeah. Anyways. You never say this anymore, but you know, we're sponsored by Dragon Shield. I don't know, like, I feel bad like this has free sleeves and we like, haven't said anything in like so long. But I, thanks for supporting us. I cannot speak on this matter, but feel free to go ahead. Yeah. Anyways. Oh, this podcast is be, uh, you know, we're like actually recording'cause we like have a lot of events to talk about. So yeah, let's get into it. I think one like really interesting event in particular. Yeah. Let's just start off Vancouver Regional championships guys, do we want to, because I think a lot of people are curious about the EUIC, like the Gogo room. Like how did like Henry Chow play Ang is the most recent? Well, I mean, I think a lot of people already, like, if they wanted to know about it, I think like refu has like talked about it, but like we, we can go through it real quick and I'm obviously gold is like still relevant to Vancouver. Um, yeah, sure. I think I'm saying like, we have, like, we didn't actually write an agenda at all for this episode guys, but I think like those are like the two key points. Vancouver, regionals and EIC. So like the events I cashed essentially are like the ones we should talk about. I'm down for that. Great job. I congrats on you. That's fine. Okay. So coming off of the San Antonio Regional Championships, which I managed to emerge victorious at, we uh, we got this new set called Evolutions with the buddy card. Kind of changed the medal a little bit and uh, I was practicing a guard and Livo were practicing a PI deck for like. Two or three weeks before UIC and we were both like fairly confident in it. But then the moment we got into Brad's room the day before, he like showed us the skull Dango deck that pretty much had favorites into the top five decks of the meta. So it seemed pretty good and it, it's not like super skill intensive, so we just kind of like decided to lock it in. Right. It seemed like a, I think the other problem, that room was like all like, no bro, it was like there propaganda in that room. Like on the wall. Yeah. There were like these posters of like, play thingo bro. Like, oh my God. Not just that though, it was like almost every serious North American player other than like Drake's friend group was in that room. So that was like 15 people and I thought, like at the time we didn't, we didn't have the Badoo technology. I'm not sure if Liam knew, but like I definitely didn't know that in Piot, like you could just play one Badoo and the golden match is like completely solved. So like I thought like, I'm not gonna play Cornerstone, and I wasn't even sure if that would work. So I just, uh. I just gave up. I was like, I'm not gonna play piggy eye until like fif, like I'm gonna hit one of these guys. And I ended up hitting Victor who was playing the deck. So like, I was kind of right that it's, it was too scary to play. Um. Goo They were at every single possible bracket level as it turned out. Yep. Just based on the red eye. I managed to, uh, you know, keep it towards the bottom of the bracket, just in case any flipping just for full coverage. Yeah. Of course. We needed someone at bracket get the people at X to one Yeah. Just to ruin people's dreams of making, no matter how many losses or wins you had, there was a chance you hit one of the golden groups. So it was like very scary. To play. Yeah. Something that, that at the time I thought like, had a very tough matchup. I, I actually think without Badu, uh, I was playing a really good s Chen and like, I thought that actually there was like more counterly than I realized, like the, the Istic Luxate package, like it can get you so far. It's just that I didn't have the like, extra push of like, uh, Badu at the end. So I was trying to like use Theistic Luxate to buy time to flew out like some guy, but it was pretty, SC sketch was all you can do. Like if you can get like two ses at some point, you can usually win. Right. Yeah. I like found out about this, like the promote the promote bear and having like a l on the bench with charm or something. It's like you can just like sometimes win by like asking them, can you even kill this guy twice? Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, but, but I mean, the, the matchup is like, it's not, it's not comfortable at all when, when you're like, you have to resort to that. Right? Yeah, of course. So yeah, that was like the story of Guango, I think. Uh, my li yeah, my turnaround was like, it was actually so fucked. I, uh, I beat a raging ball round one, which is like, dude, like all these like, cap sales is like a super good matchup. Like, dude, even with the Arch Pro, like I, I don't know if I was just like drawing that or something. Like, dude getting turn two Golda is like so hard for this deck. It felt like, um, so that, that sounds like I think you massively low rolled. I've heard so much of Henry's stories about this event, and I, I, like, I was thinking about my own experience with Guango and like a lot of the other people, like, I think Henry just like really low rolled. I don't really say that very often. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure I, because it felt like, like it was like a reasonable sample size. Like, I don't like six rounds. Like I was attacking through two, like less than half of'em. I'm like, I don't, I don't really know how, how that fits in with y'all's. But yeah, I beat Arag Bolt. Then I got like, get just kind of like fucked me up on stream and did 2, 2, 2, which like, I didn't even like know was possible. Like Brad had just kind of told me the day before that like, yeah, that shit doesn't happen. But he actually did it to me. Um, and it was like, I mean he drew pretty good, um, but it wasn't like completely unreasonable. Uh, and then I just missed Golden Dingo game three. Then I lost dude round three. Round three was like the most bullshit one where I hit a fucking to kiss Golden Go. And then he flipped heads on me, two games in a row on the very last turn off, one flip. So that was bullshit. And then I beat, I don't even remember what I beat, but then I lost to a cloth. So yeah, not very lit. Kind of like got punished. I like probably should've played Guardi, but in like hindsight, oh yeah, I'm sorry for you Henry, bro. God Yeah, it was pretty bad. I like, I don't have like that much regret in playing Guango. It's like it's bad for my brand. Right. But in terms of the ev, I think like Plano. Yeah, exactly bro. Like they, so somebody like has to lose with this Guango deck, right? Like it's not, you have to sacrifice someone to get Xandr and top four and like as many people as we did in 64 and three, two. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately Henry, we drew straws and we chose you Yeah. Like our main open question is like whether goo. Like outperformed expectation based on like who the players who were playing it. Right. I'm not sure about that. I think it's like close, right? Like about what you'd expect considering all the people who played it. I agree. Mm-hmm And then Liam, do you wanna talk about your run at all or do you wanna just keep it pushing? It's fine. Um, sure. Yeah. I, uh, I dunked on a bunch of stuff. I lost her cough. I tied two snx and what was the other deck I lost to? Hmm. Oh, I lost some ride on. I like missed Dango turn two. Like I got doned one game and then I missed Dango turn two in the other. Yeah. Oh, I actually didn't even hear about that. Okay. Yeah, that sounds alright. Uh, I like briefly talked about my run. I went 1 1 1 into lost box. I thought hitting three loss boxes was pretty egregious. My first lost opponent. Didn't know that you're not allowed to cram it. Like you're literally never allowed to cram it and leave damage on the board because then I would just like switch that KO and just like Use it to as like p like Pikachu breaking with Monkey Dory, the whole game. So that game went really long, but I didn't expect my opponent just randomly, like, there was like no reason for it. So I didn't actually expect it to happen. So I was, the game had too much time to finish and then he won on like turn three of time game two. So I, it was one, one tie. I lost to her money and her money's like the actual goat of lost box. Like, well, I don't know about that. I like, haven't really thought about this very in depth, but I would say he's like definitely top three lost boxes in the world. Like you can just, and he like told me, like apparently he like tested like IA I guess. But he told me he tested the matchup and he was like very confident and like The way he was talking while he was playing me, he like did not care. He was just like, I can do whatever I want. And like he just, he knew exactly like the limits of like what was allowed. He literally did not play a single chorus against me.'cause he, like, poke stopped them away. And then one time he made a really mature, like he lost on away chorus and like, I'm sure it was correct given that like, he had just, he had like per amount of resources and stuff that, like the chorus probably wasn't even necessary. So I could just tell from like our, our, like the one game that we played. Like, he doned me game two by the way. I just had two, two games. He just turned one, turned one shirt into me. Wait. Really? Oh, I didn't even know about that. What the heck? Yeah, but I knew was like screwed him out. Yeah. I didn't ca I was low key, like when he was doing it and he poke, hopped in a vacuum, I was like, please tell me you have, and he goes, yes, off this chorus. If I have a switch, I have it. I was like, he was like flipping them over for me. Like harmani, if I played on like LA high, high ladder before and like. We, it was like pretty cool. Like I was talking to him about, like, we were literally talking about our ladder games and just like, literally just chatting while he was just owning me. It was pretty, it was a pretty fun experience actually. I like, I enjoyed that one. And then I beat a Cornerstone LAX because game two, I dunked him and game three, he took five prize cards. And like, I actually do like really pretty consistently stopped my punnet from dpl, but he took six cards off sisters and I had no clue. Like, he literally just picks up, he was super handsy with my cards, which I don't really care. Like, I, I don't mean to complain, like I really like people. I, I do sell other people's cards all the time, so like, I have like, definitely don't wanna throw stones from like a glass house, but like, he, he insisted on like Sisters Inc. For himself. And he also insisted on like. like fluting for himself too. And I was like, yeah, I don't care. And then like he picked up my deck, dealt six cards. I like, didn't notice. And then he was like flipping through the cards like a lot. And then I was like, that just looks like too many cards. Like how many is that And then it's, and then it was six and he'd already fed me five prizes, but he had lone cornerstone. I had House to win though. I could have, uh, I could have done some tricks with just the gimme Go attack because you have to find something to Penny into. And I, I think he didn't play Mimic you or like it was prized or, or something weird. I wasn't really sure, but like, I think I might have got him, but my deck might've been just slightly too low. I'm not really sure who was gonna win. But after he did that, obviously I won instantly. And then my one lost loss win is like, I think the only round of the tournament. I actually did. Anything cool. I like, um, game one, I just doned him. And then game two, uh, I used Mind Bend to break his Pikachu and then he didn't have the double switch card, double switching effect. And he played jolty and he put way too many energies on his first Pikachu that I mind mended. And then he used, he used the super, he lost on a super rod turned one, he used the super rod to use the jolt attack. And then after I killed the Pikachu that had damage left on it, I, um, I just, he super ratted one more time. And so he had one super rod left, but he was literally out of energies completely. So I just toured my last dango and left my board as, um, as Monkey Dory. And a, um, it was, yeah, it was like Monkey Dory on the act in the active and like one gimme on the bench. And I just passed. And he had literally exactly three energies he lost on cram and he had lost on Bear. Bear. Didn't really matter, I don't think, because, uh, he only had, I only had taken two prizes at this point just to kill the Pikachu. So he actually nest ball for hands and then counted his resources and realized he didn't have enough energies to, to play the game. Like he could have attacked with hands for arm press for one prize. But then I was just gonna use, uh, dango, kill the, kill the Hands, and I just win the game. So he just scooped it up. So I two owe him and then I lost. I don't understand how you lost it situation and. He lost him cram like turn one. Yeah. But like his turn one must have been basic in the back of your mind, like the entire game. If you had to lost him, cram that like Yeah, I, I mean obviously he, yeah, I obviously it's true. Yeah. Yeah. Like yeah, there's everything to like, I think, well, I think it's reasonable'cause her money lost some cram instantly because her money just knew and her money did attack, attach extra energies. Yeah. I don't have a problem with, but it's like. If you're gonna lost on, you have to make sure you're playing airtight, right? No, I think the biggest egregious on is loss. Super odd. Like it loss the first super rod and then super odding to use your jolt tick was just like way too much stuff. Like I, I don't even know. It's possible. Like I think he must have had a very like Ani s decision where like he probably had super rod and ris and just like, he like lost one brain, just like grabbed the chorus when you don't need any of that. Well I mean like, I think like all these decisions are fine, right? It's just that when you make all of them together and it blows up, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then game round, like one of my last rounds I was 9 1 1 I lost to a cloth where game one I dunked them game two, they chose second and then they like never let up the badu and like they just kept Badu poison killing stuff and I just like completely fell over, which is how you're supposed to play the matchup. Well you could kind of, you know, once you were winning on the prize trade you can just get'em with the tro, like that's fine. Yeah. But they were so adherent to the principal that like when they could have decided to win for the prize trade and uh, they like still Badu, so I knew. And I thought like it's better to be on that side of the spectrum than the side where you don't beew enough and just try to win from pressure from the get go. So like I thought that this opponent was like way too competent, so I was like not gonna choose first. Like if I thought my claw on was like kind of not really sure what was going on. I could have chose first and like got away with it. But I knew that if I chose first I was getting beew, I was gonna lose. So I just decided to choose second game new. Yeah. And started, yeah, they just started baby pack rent and had the bonnet don like instantly and I started load game, so I just lost, like I lost the, we played a three game, seven, 15 minutes. It was brutal. Wait, how did you get'em? Game one. They literally went like, I went first and I drew past going second. And, I don't know, pretty lit. Pretty lit. Okay. Yeah. Great. Set all around. Yeah. Really fun set. And then I guess a, yeah, actually, does the baby Dan go fix it? Like, well, not fix, like it makes it like playable, right? Like you, the spirit team helps a lot as well. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. The team is really helpful. Like their deck is not very good when you don't have to, when when tombs in play, they're like Lucia esque, like people don't talk about how much cloth like, struggles under tomb. It's like, well, like the deck already struggles enough so they can't really tell that it's like struggling even more Right? I agree with this. I, but anyways, um, the last time I played against Alucia and if it was I win, I make 5K, I make 16. I was gonna, I had God resistance if I lose no money and if I tie it's 2K. And uh, I definitely made some mistakes. That said I wasn't very proud of Lu game matchup and like I have a lot of regret for how I played it. I, me the second gimme when I didn't need to and I got they boss water upon me. I. And then at the end I cyber stacked a boss to my deck. And I needed, like, they had a guy with legacy active or, or something like that. Or maybe they had jino active. I don't really remember exactly what happened, but essentially I needed boss to kill a two Prizer on the bench with no legacy or boss and one SCRI had three in my deck and I just like, um, I just crumbled. I just didn't find the SER off, like f plus Ninja plus, uh, Danko. But I needed a little more, like once I used Ninja, I need one SER wasn't enough. I think, well, actually I drew like enough raw energies. You an NCR stretcher or some shit? No, no. I drew enough raw energies off the first five cards that I think the ninja was fine, but I'm just saying that like if I knew I had the ninja, SER wouldn't have been enough. But I did draw the other conditionals, like it was so painful too.'cause off the last draw I drew double ciphers, which, oh wait, I guess ciphers didn't matter because I, I needed to boss. Nevermind. But I do remember drawing ciphers and thinking, oh, well I had like nothing I could even do.'cause I, yeah. Anyways, so ended up nine, uh, 9 1 2 I guess, or 13 or yeah, 9 1 2. So whatever. Yeah. Or ten one. No, I don't remember. Yeah. Probably ten one two. Did I really win 10 rounds? No, no. I went 9 1 2, that's for sure. Well, that, wait, no add up, but it's probably 9, 2, 2. Did I lose twice? Oh, I lost her money and I lost the clock. 9, 2, 2. That was my final That checks out. That out. I knew I didn't have 10 wins. That's all I remembered for sure. Yeah. Then you would've been in fracking then. I'd been really chilly. I've making a lot of money. Yeah. But anyways, yeah, I think that was my, uh, oh. You know, not, not the best performance from us, but it's all good. You feel like a side character, like when you're playing Dango, like you, you just try to do as best as you can on your own. But like you're, like, once the prize trade's losing, like there's no io there's nothing like, I think the Roxanne's an all right edition. I, I don't actually like, love the Roxanne. Yeah, you the Roxanne. It's, I, yeah. I, I thought this new list was like way better at the baby dangos. Of course, I, I wouldn't play it without the mirror consideration, but like, I. I like it a lot. The baby Dan and the tomb are like way more important. I don't know, I think the Roxanne is like, the rock is good, dude. I wouldn't want me like, well I still want the gang guard. I might be more down for the gang guard than the baby Dango. But I don't know if that's like troll. But dude, I think the gang is the cornerstone. The cornerstone considerations. Oh, I see. Does Baby Dango? Baby Dango does a lot. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It Well when you have the tomb as well, right? Like the, the Baby Dangle plus the Tomb Henry, there's so many spots where you're like, like at the end where if you could just like go like hit 50, evolve, hit one 20, like shuffle in, hit a hundred into After you Penny into mimic you like you'd win, right? Yeah. But like you can't do that. So I think the Baby Dango definitely does help enough against like very straightforward cornerstone strategies. If they have like more intricacy, like they have like, I dunno, like sometimes like there's like other factors that you have to worry about. Then they can like transition to a different plant. But just like pure channel cornerstone Wall, you doesn't really work against the The baby dango. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty. But anyways, I think that's our USCI was crashing out after I lost, but uh, honestly, it's back, dude. It was actually horrible. I, yeah, like we're never doing that shit again.'cause like, we wanna be in control of our destiny. But, uh, you were, yeah, that was the one, that was the one thing we were sure of. I felt like after, uh, after EIC, like we didn't really have a concrete reason, but I think me and Liam, we both knew that like, or I guess Henry too. Like, well I was the only one who had a, who was gonna Vancouver, but I knew for a fact I was not playing Dan go to Vancouver. Yeah. Just'cause like there's no reason to, I think Like, I just got swept up in the whole like, oh, my deck is trash. Like, I think, I think we were all like a little scared and then like, you know, Brad, Brad was out here like offering us all like the solution and it was like, you know, yeah, we'll just, just put our faith in him for this one. Yeah. I mean, I, I wasn't very confident in my god red deck. And you guys weren't that confident in your P deck? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We more confident we would've stayed strong. Also, his decorat by, I mean, after that event though, the badoo that, that, like Liam, I, I have to give full credit to Liam for this Badoo idea because I, I, I was a little skeptical, but Liam just like played me a couple times with the Badoo in the deck and like he was, he was super sure that that was the best answer to go dango. And like, I was like, I was like kind of on the fence about it. I was like, maybe if I manage my energies perfectly, I can win. It's so hard if the flu even hits like one gimme go, it already like, feels like really hard. As long as the charm isn't prized, that's like the key thing you can't prize. I'd say like also pricing Thornton makes it really hard to spam it. Like pricing stretcher is like annoying, but if you prize Thornton and like you can't pad for Purdue again anymore, that's like, that makes it really hard as well to actually finish the game. Because you can never drop the bedu lock once you like start the bedu lock. Yeah, perfect. You give so many prizes up, like you can never drop it. If you ever drop it for even turn you lose. The thing is like you get so much time in the match. Right, because like even if they have the energy and deck, it's really hard for them to access it. Like they have to essentially have like a raw ciphers. Right? So a lot of, yeah, exactly. Like they just miss an attack and then you like get to set up everything in your hand. Right? Exactly. A lot of the middle bad Dees don't have a charm in them. They miss a turn and yous lean and if you hit one heads and you get the charm back, like they're two energy stress that you might not need a charm ever again. It's also important that matchup, like we'll talk more like, because I did play against two Tangos and maybe I can tell you guys more about the matchup, but like, not, not you guys obviously like, like audience, like I, but like I would say like I dunno how I clarified anyways. I'll say that. Like if you don't charm your lux, right, it's huge bait because if you get your charmed back, I think the matchup gets way too hard. Like I know it like sounds nice to like tax an extra energy, but like literally I think you should only charm when you announcing itchy pollen for turn. Oh, or else it's better to tax the poor is what you're saying. Like after they have less energies, that's when you want to tax them. No, no, no. It's not about that. It's literally about never letting your charm get backed so you can like at least cycle it once or twice. Okay. Okay. Okay. I see. Um, no chest. Okay, so yeah, that was EIC pretty lit. Well, not really. It's actually terrible. Um, and then it was like two weeks till Vancouver, as Lamb knows I was kind of retired because I was not going to Vancouver and had other shit going on. Hmm. What do you mean, kind? Yeah. Henry has this thing where if he has an event in the, in the format, he just like, pretty much like disappears from the group chats and just like can't be found completely untrue, but it's all good. That's like, actually that was like, that was a lie. No, no, no. He's actually like very present in the group chat, but he's just like literally saying he just won't play the game. Like Yeah. He just says random things and like just won't like play. Yeah. I become a full-time rage major. It's pretty, well actually, no, I will give Henry credit. He like decided like, he felt like bad for me that he, like he won San Antonio and I got 147, so he decided to like donate$50 to me. By playing like a, he thought his spear tune, BDU Godless was actually had any chance for his pitch on my tic. That was the best of seven and it was 4.0 Okay. Appreciate the physiology, honestly. Yeah, I like, well I was playing sort of that, but also I realized that this Badoo is like kind ba I shouldn't be using that guy. Not just that the Evo card is like, like the Evo card was like, am I gonna get credit for that now that you know, you're like speaking publicly. Okay, I sure I'm down. I mean, I'll say this like, like we were sitting on a call and I was like, I was like, I think we need pitch Yoda. Like this PDU card is too good. Like we cannot have it that if they bedu we, we have to break item lock to vault. Like we have to have some out. Right? And so I said, but pitch Yoda and like maybe in the same breath Henry said like, oh Evo. And then like, you know, I mean obviously I thought PTO was be paired with Evo, but like, okay. Completely 50 50. Shout to Henry. 50 50, shout to Henry. Controlling what the, all good. It's all good. It's all good. Yeah. I'll take credit for pushing. I have like no recollection of like any of these events. But this is like definitely the narrative that a Obama is pushing. Yeah. I mean, it's all, it's all, I'll just take credit. Okay. Henry, can we agree that the story, even if it's like, there's like, like some, uh, spewing from of me, like at least the events I said are true. Like I did say pto, you said Evo, and then like that's the true part. Yeah, that's the true part. Yes. Everything called made no sense, but that part, how can that dude pitch? OTO is a stage one and like most people play P oto when they use Elu TM evolution. Is that correct? Like, like does, can the court agree on this at least, or. Like, I don't know, Vicky, you're like playing a super heavy I Alyssa this way. You were on like three Iita or some shit, right? No, no, I was never on three, I, it was two Iita, three Arvin, which is what I ended up playing. Okay, okay. Okay. Well anyway, I'll, I'll be taking like probably like 70% of the credit, but it's all good. No, I, there's, it's actually outrageous for you to think that you deserve any more than like at the very most, like 40% most. And, and that's like, that's a generous offer. Like you can take your 40% and leave or like we can like argue and go to small claims court and maybe it'll come down to 30%. Who knows? Firstly, I think the seventh Amendment says that we'll not be able to, from my American history, you's gonna say that we'll not be making the small claims court. Um, okay, so is there anything, okay, fine. But anyways, like after the 70 30 idea that me and Henry came off with, the deck just felt so broken. Like it doesn't, like, yeah, it like sets up way more like the evil more. This deck is like clearly terrible still, but let's go through a bonds bank run. Okay, sure. I, okay. Like the deck is like not very good. It's obviously not terrible. Like how can you even say that with a straight face? Like, I mean, like we top four, you know, like just because you got top eight doesn't mean your deck isn't terrible. Like, I agree with No, no, no. I'm not saying it based on the, the fact that like I top a, like top a top four, like based on results, I think How can you think this deck is terrible? Just because like, Henry's contention is the pul nor matchup is like, well, like unsaved. Like if your goal is to win the tournament, you probably shouldn't play the page on deck. Um, that's ridiculous. That's actually a ridiculous statement. If your goal is to win the tournament, you definitely shouldn't play the guard war deck because your name's not Henry Chow. So like, don't pick that up if you're not Henry's literally look through like, this is ridiculous. Like, dude, dude, oh my God, Henry, you dude, like literally look through the results. Like Henry has plenty of disciples. He like released the meta my class for like every deck he ever made. Like he's like a complete shill and like no one has. Other than like Rose Gregson at LAIC, no one has ever been able to make, oh, and I guess MD and Marita, we'll, like, we'll, not like be discussing the validity of Marita, but it's totally fine. Like, other than those two outliers, no one can make past Asim with Henry's creations. Like, let's just be, uh, let's be real. Well, dude, like, anyways. No, no. Like there hasn't even been very many opportunities, dude, like Baltimore and Louisville. No one would've like played my Dax. And then like, are you serious? A good success. Okay. And then Toronto, it had pretty good success. Like, yeah, some shit happened in Asim, but the deck was pretty good. Like everyone played. It was actually Every time people played the PI deck, they got top eight. Henry, even with these limited opportunities, lose an Asim. Dude, Henry, I'll admit this is super runoff based, but Poke has actually clearly stated that Asim, like losing an asim is like not worth very much in their eyes. There's like 120 points separating Asim and like topic. Yeah, that, yeah. I, they, they know I, I'm well aware. Well, obviously this is top 16. Yeah, exactly. But no, Henry, I thought we were talking about the window from like Toronto to Vancouver and like that's such a short window, literally li list, like where's our results? Top eight? Yeah. That literally only one person has ever played our pig yacht creation, and they top eight it. So it is like, um, I don't know. Like Jeremy for one. Jeremy. What? What? No, no. Like in that window. In that window that Liam just like out outlined, Jeremy Gibon played it at Toronto as well. He did. He did Okay. Alright. I didn't that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that was actually doing good. No, I think. Well, Jeremy or Hassan didn't play the right Toad school. So if it was Jeremy, oh, that changed everything. That, that straight up changed everything. No, no, that, that, so he doesn't count. Doesn't count. It doesn't even matter. No. Uh, doesn't change the Toad school. I like Ohad, I think, I think Jeremy played the fighting type one instead of the grass type one. Okay. Alright. Is the wrong one. That is so different that Libby changes everything if they play like friend ball or love ball or whatever. So like, don't do the same thing. Jeremy. Jeremy like, uh, I think, no, it was Jeremy bro.'cause he, he like almost lost the game to it because he had a chance to do the play where he missed energy counter games. The Toad School then knocks out a roaring moon. That frenzy gouging Nice fan. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So this is completely like, so Jeremy's run doesn't count in terms of the thing. So anyways, me and Hassan are the two top baders with the list, so. Okay. Thank you for, it's fine. Actually from. Toronto to San Antonio. Three people top cut with, uh, my creations top cut. We don't use that terminology these days. Top eight This is all, is completely results based. By the way, if I lost, if me or, or Hassan somehow had to play Asim and Lost, or if I like lost my game to the Luga and Asim, we would be definitely shifting the narrative. I, I'll be completely honest. Yeah. Oh, I'm completely with this. I'm completely with this. We'll share say with no shame, but that's like not ridiculous. Ill say that. PT Ladder, when they count your top cuts, they include Asims. So I will be going ahead and saying that I'm Oh, we're using, we're using pt. Oh, okay. Well, PT Ladder hasn't even updated Vancouver yet. So like, are we allowed to have a podcast about Vancouver?'cause like, PT Ladder's gonna have it up, so, oh, still not Wait. Oh, oh, is it up? No, no. It is updated. It is? Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. Anyways, we'll, we'll like, we'll like discuss tight. That's crazy. Alright. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Anyways, Vancouver, uh, I was like, sure that I wanted to play my patriot deck because like, I don't know, I just, I just, I really felt a lot of regret that I like, like cowered out the last second and we finished, finished the golden matchup or like fixed it. Sorry. So like, I thought there's no way we can, like, I can play something else. So I was, I was set. Uh, I was just thinking about some last, last cards, like, uh, the four Arvin, two, one ear I think versus three, two, I, I think like I thought about it bit two ear broken. It does. The ear are really good. I agree with you Henry. I think it matters like about the same amount that like the Erie to Arvin split that you played the NIC matters. Yeah, exactly. Like it's like fun, like it's a good chat, but no one actually cares. Right? Yeah. Ex exactly. Deck would still function fine if you played four one. It's like, no. Yeah, I agree with this, but I was very happy throughout the day. Like the thing is though, when you, when you, yeah, I agree. When you price secret pox though and you're looking at internet like, that happened to me one time. I felt so sad. But other than that it was chill, bro. I like brilliant. I mean, you know, I'm all for, I grabbed Nest Ball and wrote'em, did everything I needed for the record, but, oh, that's why year nor there we did Secret Box. I. So anyways, before the tournament on Friday, I was, um, I was feeling like pretty good, but I wasn't, I wanted to play a couple of games because Drake, he was refusing to play me. Like I asked him like many times, like, I wanna practice the matchup. And he said, bro, I played so much this matchup before you, I see that I don't wanna test anymore. So I was like, or I don't wanna test this match anymore. I have other things to worry about. And I was like, please, Drake, like, I think that you're gonna be in the finals and like, I wanna get some practice in beforehand. So, you know, also just fighting that in there. I called it, dude. Well, I don't know what you said in person, but I like, well, we'll talk about this, but like, I, I like a hundred percent knew Drake was winning was event. Like, that shit was not even like a question. Oh dude. I, I knew Drake was cutting and I still was cocky enough to put a$5 placement file with him that I de like I placed better than him. And, uh, you know, after Swiss, after Swiss, I was ahead. 10. Hey. Yeah, I was above Dr. And Smith. Any IC Oh, if that turned out well, how did that go? Oh, okay. Anyways, so the, the thing that really made me confident though is I played against like the, I actually played against Drake's List, but I was playing against uh, Justin Templar and like Luc is sing beforehand. And I was like, I felt like I was like still learning the matchup, like with Badu. I'm not sure how good this Badu convert is, but I think like they were surprised by it just as much as I was surprised it was so good. Like, they were having like kind of slow starts, like, I dunno, they just didn't want, they didn't have Lance yet. They were just like going to BDU as fast as possible. And I would hit the, the bdu, like I'd get pig out, out like through some like agreed to sacking and then I'd just like get into DU and stop there. I stop them from Candying, but they had like one or two Drac looks, then I'd ICS and I would set up my water pond and then I would water pond kill both Dals and like It was pretty much over from there. And this was a two bo, like this was Drake's, like two boss list. So at the time it was working good. Like we like tested the matchup a lot more after the event and like that shit is happen, happen. I'm not sure at all. Yeah. I don't know what was happening. I genuinely don't know, like what happened in like the Vancouver like convention center, like why this was strategy was working so much more like right then. Like I genuinely have no clue I was winning every single game like this because you're not playing against like, like me or Bradner, like Sure. But I think like Zing and Trustin, those are like, like, I dunno what to say. Like, they're, they're definitely really good at they, well they don't play like, it's just about knowledge. Like, it's not about like instinct. Trustin doesn't play pul this deck like said many times. Like Tristan is like the inventor of this list. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, trust's obviously good. You're just probably sacking him, that's the thing, like, right. Yeah. I know, I know. But I went like five one, so I'm just saying like, what happened? I, I was feeling really good. Let's not forget like at this moment Abad decided to go, to say anything strategy. It was like, dude, this stick destroys everything. Like obviously that's not true. Yeah, bro. I, I played like, um. Like maybe like eight or nine hours yesterday of the pulp matchup in Piot versus Bradner. And we were like playing both sides and the pulp side was so much better. Every single, like the Pul side is so much more comfortable. It's winning like 70, 80%, like by the numbers and by the vibes. It's just like completely mo this deck. It's, I mean this pol deck is just so good. Like they land on turn two. Okay. And the PI player just already wants to, it's important, it's important to clarify that we're only talking about pul, nor every, everyone agrees that this straight dust the straight. No, no. I mean that is also the version that one, um, port laser and like top A of this event. Like that's the other puling cut. Like, I think it's to, it's totally valid to just point out that that's, this is like this Pul is only half the PUL percentage, right? Like. I don't, I don't wanna like, like obviously like regular full tech is something you can do. I, I, and I actually think the audience understands that. I think maybe at the highest level I agree that this Paul nor iss un favored, like, I'm like willing to succeed that at the very, at the very, very highest level. But like, it's extremely, like, highly un favored at the highest level. Like it's not just, okay, sure. But on your, like, I like this is advice for anyone who's playing, like, who's deciding which side to be on. Well, I, you don't have to decide, like the thing is a whole different, but I'm just saying that like, if you're playing page to this event and you're actually really cracked at Piot, you're gonna beat like, like almost every er you sit down against, like realistically, like if you are like really, really good with piot, like, I think. You will be like, most Paul knows you play. And I, I don't think that like can really be disputed. I think like no, it definitely can be disputed. I think it gets like the average players, you'll convert your pay jack games a little bit more. You're still losing these games where you just get like completely fucked up by Yeah. Like, I don't know. I like, I, I do feel like some people have like some, some pretty bad technique, but like it doesn't feel like it takes all that much, bro. Like as soon as you go like BDU a lands for three drag load, you already feel like, like it's impossible to lose. Yeah. Like they, it's like such an obvious, like they go for the D dz, right? Like Yeah, exactly. Like sure how your deck works, you bedo and then you get your three drag folk and now you're already like zing them up, dude. Like I agree. Like, I mean, I was putting up like I don't, but like I agree to the extent, but I still like was like before, like way before I was like beating Drake pretty.'cause like we were like going, even I was like, I was up into Drake and then we had like a really, like I had a bad session and then like, I think I ended up probably being down before we like quit playing the matchup ever. And then like I played the matchup on ladder a ton. I played the matchup with like truss and zing. Like, I don't know like how, like how crap do you have to like, I don't even know what they're doing wrong.'cause I agree like it's so easy to play the pulse side, so I don't even know how people are messing it up. But I just know that when I play the pig outside and I just like watch what they're doing, I'm like, oh wow. Like they mess up and like, now this is like Textbook punishment. Oh yeah. There's like some forbidden techniques that are like, not obvious, like people do not expect you to get like the water pot involved or like this istic stuff, but like, it's just like, as long as they're aware, aware of like all your tricks, it's like, feels like they can play around it and just, yeah. Now that me and Henry aren't gonna Stockholm anymore because we couldn't get a spot, now I don't even care. Like you can like, yeah, just play around cic, but that's not that hard. TPCI, if you're listening, please gimme a spot to Stockholm. I would like to make my$10,000. But I think that literally like the, the, the simple concept of like IC is a huge threat is like lost on a lot of people. Even like pretty strong players. Like until they see it and then they're like, they look at their hand, then they're like, okay, wow. Not letting that happen again. If I have to play it's like I feel like my one set that I did get to play is like they didn't expect the water pond to get involved. And then I had a slow start game three and like. It I prize OSA game two. It was just, but the water P got involved and was too good. And then game three, I think OSA got involved, but I think the water p also got involved again and like it was pretty free. Yeah. Every time I use the water pong just a game winning. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. But I mean like in principle, it doesn't have to be true, but like generally, like there's like some like in practice, they don't convert the post. Yeah. They don't convert the post torrential pump world very well. Yeah. Well dude, like converting it is like if you're doing the torrential pump, right? Like the next turn is like penny febu ascension every single time. Yes. And like yes, exactly. The are gone. The game is over. Like it's not over because they play three dous, all two stretcher. And like if they didn't let you get a clo, a CLOs with a pump, like they still might have enough resources to get you and, and they get to Iona four and CCS their life. So pretty much though, like it's because I agree that's, that's why I think it's like good. That's why I think it's a good thing to do and it's like a good spot. But I'm just saying that like it is, the game is not as a hundred zero as it feels in practice when you do this to someone. Yeah. So you wanna get into My problem though is I didn't understand this correlation though. And sometimes in testing I would lose gain ride threshold pump because like we're talking now when you're like allowed to trench a pump, then you never lose. But because I've noticed that spot. Yeah. Yeah. I would do it way too early. Like I was just like, I wouldn't pigeon out for like enough good stuff first. I wouldn't istic first. I was the realistic Bri, I was just like, but like I would just go like bang potential pump, like, and then they just like, it would be their hand is huge or something. Or like something had gone wrong and like I lose board is just wide. Then they have access to CC and like they just start like magging your board. Right. CC pigeon out punch everywhere, right? Yeah. CC Pigeon punch io. Yeah. Like you have to be like set up enough or like have enough good things going for you that like this IO is not gonna like ruin the game for you, like after you get, after you get the trench pump off. So yeah. Anyways. Yeah. So do you wanna go through like event round or interesting rounds or, yeah, or, yeah. I'll, I'll try to do, I'll do a speed run because I think piton matches are pretty easy to tell what happened. So I'll just speed run through as many of my, my rounds really fast. So round one, I think I saw Cha on, he was actually playing the Brent Toon list. He was Australian. And game one I did, I didn't see prime catcher until game three. So game one, he didn't, um, like he just didn't use Prime Catcher, but I just like, my board was like bad and he just like ran me over. I just drew pound of bad game two. I was like getting extremely lucky with the flute. I flew out like so many. Good, well, he donated squawk of his own volition. And then I fluted gr Ninja Fez and a second, and, and the yaga after he bega also on his own volition. But this was not like one flute, this was three flutes that I got this, I think each went one. He, he had one arch. He had one arch, one Swee donated, one Fez and Greninja and a diala that I put down. Yeah. And then yeah, a diala that he put down. I guess he did. No, no, no, no. I, I must be wrong with Daga. I think the Diala was also voluntary and I only had one Diala and there was a second Ella on. Regardless. That's enough to win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyways, that was enough to win game two and then game three didn't have that much time, we gentleman, and we got to a weird spot. But anyways, it ended, I ended up getting the gentleman Sure. And then you on two playing with Kango. He, um, he was playing a one one our child online in it, which was really funny because he ultra balled away the, um, wait, the, our child on really early, one of them way. Yeah, I don't know. But he'll ultra the waydon and then assuming he could stretch it later. And then when I got into the Badoo, I had a charm and it was, it was really funny. He put 30 with the hammer in and then he jammy towered, and I promoted lax. And he just like, he went crazy. He like had an energy already on his tango. He retreated and used three more energies to kill LAX as well, while he was like itchy, pulling that turn right. And I just like set up another, he like, he attached an hammering. He had an energy on the active, oh, I guess he, he active, maybe he didn't retreat. Mm. Oh, yes. He retreated before the jammy tower was played. Yes, you're right. Henry got, I got, yeah. And I was like, I just couldn't stop laughing. I was just like, he just killed three en, he like killed my lives with three energies and I passed the Turo melodic this game. So I did have some annoyances dealing with tarots, or maybe he turro into the arch. The, the golden. The thing, don't, the tur are just plus one energy. They don't really matter that much. Or sometimes plus two energy. Yeah, I know. But yeah. And, and you're not allowed to go for the other strats, right? Like when, when you have Turo, you can't, that's why you're never. Well, I don't know because game one, I saw his entire deck because he played till deco or played till within three cards of deco, I think. And I flew, I, I always, when I go to win no matter what, and their deck is sub five cards, I'm picking my cards up. He played the flute 13, not letting you see everything. Yes, yes, I know. But he did not do that. So I got to flute, see the last five he, he got down the two prize cards and I'd ic to him like I turned before, so there were only like five mystery cards. So I just like knew there was no hard switch in his dad. Yeah. Or, or like any tricks to be word out whatsoever. Yeah, and I saw like his energy count too. So I knew that he couldn't attack with Greninja. This actually came up again against my other Guango opponent. I knew he couldn't attack with Gr Ninja. So game two, I just like, uh, he benched gr Ninja on his own and I had the Turmo Myotic and he like picked up and read it, which is a great sign. And then I CC and a water pound the Greninja and he scooped instantly. So. Well, I mean, it seems like in this spot, if he had a switch, that probably would've even mattered. Yeah, it wouldn't have mattered, but it's like, it's extra assurance. Like the five MR. Cards would just be like four switches for me to lose, like. But anyways, so I beat that guy. Then round three I had a tragedy. I played against LAX in game one. I, I saw temples early on, so I thought there must be a geo, geo como to follow with this. And like I think if they don't have geo como, the S tier line is just like pig evolve nothing and just a hundred even into fans and just like Penny as like never bench anything on your own. Just like have a pig up penny everything else when they flute or Erica's or whatever, it's fine. Penny again. And then when they start like fanning your en your energies onto the basics, you just penny those and like, yeah. And just a hundred them to death. And win the game that way. And I especially need to go for the strategy because I prized io so every card I was drawing was like forever drawn unless I pow like the only thing I could do to make my deck bigger is Pal pad. So anyways, I was, I went for the strategy where I bedu him and never dropped the Badoo lock, but I ended up losing a deck out war where I had two Lene, two pad, and he had two Lene, one Yel cheer. And I just lost like my, I like lost like, uh, like six or I believe like, like six flips in a row is like the, the final breaking point. But I'd already like been going a little negative to get to The six flips in a rows when I broke, but I think I was going a little negative to even get there. Right. So it's okay. I mean, I like, I was really tilted, but game two I realized there was no Jocko.'cause I saw his entire deck except his six prize cards, which I believe he like showed to me too, just like for no reason after game one. So I just like instantly went from my page out a hundred strategy and I got the game, uh, with one minute left in, uh, in before time and he just, we just didn't play game three. So we, I tied, I was extremely frustrated after I tied, but this was not the most frustrating I would be all day actually. So and like, that's kind of crazy because when I tied this lax, which is like supposed to be like in 90 10, I was, I thought like this is like peak frustration. Anyways, the next round, I think it's Ethan y. He's like a really nice guy. He plays Pig out normally, but he, we were actually chatting'cause we've talked about Pig Out before and we were chatting and he said like he couldn't make it work for this event. And then I played, I played him and like I evo him and he thought it was pretty cool and like, I don't know, he was like obviously tilted that he just like lost the, he lost both games mention, really mention anything. The Guidewire stack and you're sort of Rock Oh, sorry. In the face. Yeah. I he playing Guard Devore in game one. He tried the Clef Me, which I was really surprised and I thought like most pigon enjoyers don't like try to clef because the clef is so bad. It solves like any monkey dory tricks like. You can't even win the game with cl key. Like you have to retreat and like, even if they're bricked and you retreat and like, they can start roading again. Like, well dude, if you don't compare to him, I don't know, like I'm kind of down to just free roll with cl you know? I don't even like, dude, if it's not even a free roll, that's the point. It doesn't work. It like almost never works. Anyways, he cl he me, I just like had like, I literally like when the clef and there's no pressure, I like just was able to nest ball for pitchy and then like, I next friend I like had lux right in hand. I had Arvin like maybe that's like an eg agree to set. Yeah, exactly. Like, okay. Yeah. Oh, okay. So yeah, no, he went for this clef and like, obviously terrible. I have so many outs. I have a ridiculous amount of outs, myy and my Arvin. So, and I, I, I have so many, like, I, I didn't think it was like that lucky, but anyways, gave two I, it was even more egregious what I did to him. He chose first and I just like Evo into baby melodic and the PTO on turn one and the game was like almost over on the spot. It was, I used a secret box too, so I think I had a, my hand was like lux or like wrote on. I had Rod him on the bench too and my hand already had the Arvin for next turn and like he like, it's really awkward, right?'cause the art, the rodos on the bench, like whatcha gonna do like the Arvin is known. So do you io to stop the Seal Stone or Pope Seal Stone's prize? Maybe. Or like, do you like io Just express prize. Sometimes you've done to me as like you have the Arvin turn won and then you just like get both the steel stone and the Evo in play and the game is like literally over. Right? Like you actually just can't wait. Oh yeah. That's like, that's a fan favorite too. Yeah. Yeah. game or something. But yeah, I think it was exhaust. I think thing like why is like so improbable it almost never happens is'cause the pitch deck has to start with the energy, which is like an egregious high rule. But sometimes it happens. The energy's the hardest part'cause you don't wanna steal, so the energy, because that defeats the purpose. Right? But like, if you have an energy, I would say eviling and getting both basics is really easy. The energy's the only hard part. Yeah. Like if you have a box that's already like really free. Uh, I mean, I, I was like, uh, it was nice playing you, man. Like, I don't know about apology, but I, oh, well. And then at 3, 1, 1 is this when I lost my deck? 2 1 3. Oh, I was 3 0 1. No, I, I won again, someone else first before losing my deck. Let me think. Uh, all right. I'm not really sure. Let's just like skip over that round. I beat someone. Uh, and then this is like, like the, oh, I know how to beat. I beat a cloth. I beat a cloth who didn't really understand the matchup at all. And so he, it was kind of funny. He like went really all out at first and I met, but like I managed to just like Jack Omo Lux, right? Him, and he was like super brick. And then I like. Say for a bit, uh, while bumping a stadium and just like chilling. And then I went for a water pond. I like, I don't know how he like, didn't have laud to play, so I, I ended up guessing I was bonnet and punching it with Piot to discard the stadium and put his bonnet at a hundred. And then later in the game, I, when he like tried to go back into Bedou while I already had pigott out, I water upon his bonnet and his badu to take two prize cards and he was only at five. He, like Badu killed my, um, pig to start the game. So I was just like, I was up four or five and I was purely just winning prize trade. You won a prize trade? Yeah, there was like actually nothing he could do. It was pretty funny or I thought it was pretty funny. Yeah, I mean they, the part of the Right, that's an exact a prize trade by the pig Yex. It's literally cooked, right? Yeah. They're never gonna miss. Yeah, exactly. Oh. You could always find the missing piece every turn with using the quick Well, yeah, exactly. Like you can get the card you need in your hand. If you have the card you need, how can you lose? Right? Yeah, he exactly. Uh, Liam's putting it perfectly. So that was my first torrential pump of the tournament. And then game two, I ed his research and he, like, he's supposed, he was a nice guy. It was funny. He was like very like, cordial and nice, but like, when I like actually looked at his research, he, um, he got very frustrated and he just picked up his cards, but he was still like, I don't know, it was funny. Like his actions were like so tilted, but he was like very nice. I, I thing like, you know, he's No, I know, I know. I'm just saying like, hilarious. Like I, I feel like No, exactly. I, I, I say I have a lot of respect because I feel like most people, like they just go silent or like tilt really hard. But like he was, um, he was, I could tell he was, and it's always frustrating to lose. So like, I, I, I feel a lot of sympathy. I respect that guy a lot Anyways, I guess after this round, I didn't put my deck in my bag or something. I don't really know. it was 4 0 1. I just, I don't know what happened. I like, I don't know, I have no theory, nothing. And then I, um, show up to, against Charlie Locker who's playing straight pole and I knew Charlie's list. He played one of my, the freeway Seattle locals. Yeah, it's, he thinks that the cornerstone matters because he could like kill my poetic ex, but actually get straight pull. It's really important to get the, the anti Turo Myotic involved. No, that, I dunno about that one. Yeah. It's super, super important to get the Antiotic involved. I mean, because there's no duster to kill your anti, your antiotic, so then they can't, like, they can never go like dust nor Turo. So it's super easy to trap like a bunch of different things that are able to be trapped. With the baby, melodic and just chill. It's like playing a sorority. Honestly. You probably would've won, but I mean, I guess since you didn't have your deck like oh well, but like you probably would've lost anyway, so it's all good. But anyways, this is like a travesty where I sit down like I don't have my deck, and then this is like so funny to me. Someone at my old table had the same deck box as me, so like ran over and just took it. Just thought like, oh, that is my dad I literally run back to my seat. I open it up. It's like. Not my deck in there. I guess it's just like his extra deck had to run back anything. Dude, I I, I was filled with adrenaline. I'm sure he was confused. He was like, prize checking, bro. Like the round had already started. What? And like, I like went back, I like apologized profusely. I was like, oh my God. I'm like so stressed out. I'm so sorry. Like I, I, I thought this was my deck. I was sitting here, I lost my deck and he was just very understanding, I thought. And so anyways, then, like Charlie, Charlie's someone I talked to about this deck before, like my deck. And so he actually had most of the pieces in his room, but his room was a 25 minute Uber away. And like, given the round had already started and stuff, it was like cutting it extremely close. Right. So he at first offered to send me there, but I, I thought about it and I was like, this is gonna be such a nightmare. I'm gonna be like going through their Airbnb, like trying to, he's like, I can direct you through my room. It's a little messy. He has like the deck in one of these. I was like, and he doesn't even have all the cards. It's not like he has my exact 60. Yeah. It's like even after I come back, I'd have to fix like 10 cars or something. And I was just like, this sounds like a completely miserable experience. Like, I don't want to do this like. I think I'm gonna just like, try my luck. Just like getting people, like either finding it here or like getting people to help me rebuild it. And like, this is the part where like the community like completely carried. Um, I told the, the tabletop parents like, what happened? And like, it was like the Avengers Row, like we had Princess Dad, Holden, he, he came out and he was like, yeah, prince Place Control. Like, here's like these cards. And then like, um, Jake ER's dad, Keith, he came out and he was like, here's my, my pull deck that I just dropped with. Like, take everything you need outta here. Like, no worries. Like, and then this is like what really saved me. There's this guy Jeff, he's uh, he's like the community, like he's a doctor. He is like a really nice guy too. And he, uh, his, he just came in with this mega binder and his kids play SNL wax. Man, I was so chilling. I found every single card except melodic, tw on 50. But the, the kale that ensued trying to get this melodic was actually like, that took the most time at the, these guys were like, they had me set, they built my deck in like 15, 20 minutes, right? So I had 59 cards, and then I won like a pack of end games off ki and trivia that I used to sleeve my deck. Like, it was so lit. And then I was just like, okay, melodic. Like I knew my ju the judges can't like proxy a full deck. That's like awfully ridiculous, right? But I figured like one card, like this melodic TWM, like, please, like the vendors don't have it. No one has it. Please just like, like, you know, gimme a pass. You know? No can do. I even knew like the t like TG leader or whatever, and she's like, well, like I, I like, I'm sorry, like, I just can't like, make exceptions like this. Like if you can't produce a card that's damaged, you can't get a judge proxy. So I was like, okay. Like I was saying to myself though, like, what's the difference between like, if I just burned a card, faceless or whatever, it's just like a blank card. Like, and I'm like, this was my melodic, it got burned in like a fire. Can I get like a drudge proxy? Like how is that any different than me? Like I need one card. Like my deck literally got like I was stolen or I lost it or something. Like, please like help me out. Like, but anyways, I'm like begging and like people keep giving me my, a lot of yx and like, I was like, obviously everyone's trying to be helpful, so I was like trying not to get frustrated. But like after like the third or fourth person who handed me on my, a lot of hex, like I was getting a little mad, but like, I obviously like, I don't know, it was fine. Like it's obviously everyone met it well and like I am, I don't like, I obviously can't complain about people being like, helpful. I'm like, but it was like frustrating'cause I'm trying to like, I get so excited.'cause like I get like, people who gimme like a lead, they're like, oh, this guy has on Melo. And I'm like, run to like wherever they told me they were and like to show, I show up and it's like Myx. I was like, I, I have these now the issue here. Yeah. Okay. Henry's been waiting this whole time. Oh God. Oh God. He dropped that a second time. I, it's a great poll, Henry. Second time. It's a great joke. It's such a bullshit card, so like, it just makes me mad. So I have to like, sort of like, honestly with all due respect to you, like I feel like you should just been forced to play like a second. My lucky ex, like that would've been fine with me, dude. But I almost just played a water bro. I literally almost played a water because she said like, because someone said they had that in their hotel room and I was like, maybe I played with Myotic for one round, but thank God I did not do that because next round I'm play against a guango and like this guy's playing a 1 1 1 Pul line. And what? oh my god. Yeah. What s Noreen Nore or something. Oh, oh, oh, Toronto. Yeah. Yeah. Toronto. And he, um, because of the pole line, I could very much tell there's not a second water for Greninja.'cause that would be absurd. So he started greninja. And then he benched clef key and tried to like do that on me and like, I just like water pawned him. I just knew there wasn't more than one switch. I just, I just went for straight water pawn game two. I like, I think it's kind of funny, he, um, he, we were talking about like if we would be down to gentlemans and I was like, yeah, sure. No big deal. I'm, I'm almost down to gentleman. And he, um, he like, he's completely locked with a gr ninja active and he catches the water to it. And I was like, I was sitting there thinking like, do you have an out to win? And like, I, I did just say it out loud. I was like, do you even have outside? He goes like, yeah, maybe. And he's like trying to bluff, I guess, that he has a second water, like attached to another energy. But like, I was like, I'll let him do the first Greninja attack and then we'll like, try after that. You know, like I, I don't even be, I like really, really do not believe this, that there's a second water energy in your deck. So like, even if you have, let's, he's never winning through like Serena, right? It is not possible. Uh. You could load a bunch of extra on GR Ninja theoretically and like 99. 99. Like never drop it, right? Yeah, but like But then I could transition to something else. Charlie, you can't watch that stuff. You put like five energy. Yeah, I could drop something else. But anyways, I like checked his deck with flu and like AIC him and I was like, okay. There was like no outs. Sure. And like yeah, at some point I could just retreat into Bear and just like win the game. But just like sitting there with a bear until like make prove that you can win like bluffing. Like he maybe like it's game two. I have no clue. Like I would spazz out and just like retreat into Badu or something. I don't really know. I don't know what he is helping but like Lowkey, he's down one. Oh. Like I can respect the track. Yeah. I just thought it was funny to mention. Yeah. Yeah. He was super chill. I actually, I really enjoyed playing. I just, the, if you're down one oh like there's no reason to ever scoop. Right? Like I just, well in that situation I think I probably just, I dunno, I've seen you scoop to zero zero against Ross Coffin, so like, I don't really know what you're talking about, but uh, well I suppose, yeah, I mean I would scoop maybe in like a situation like that if it's at like a lead cup or like, you know, some other round that doesn't matter. But, oh, you, if I'm in contention still, I'll see. You would've played that set out. I mean, you probably should, but like, bro, anyways, I actually set, I actually check out, paid out ao set in contention when I was down four six, bro. Oh, okay. Yeah. And you won. Congrats. This guy, he ran outta energies kind of technique. Okay. Anyways, moving on from S Nora, I played against a, um, pretty easy match. Been the next round. I'm like, trying to remember what it was. Lemme go open on my Twitter post. Sorry. Sorry for being so unprepared and unprofessional guys after Theo. Oh, I guess I didn't, I played against a cloth. Oh, my cloth opponent. Actually, this was like, somehow, I think this was more frustrating than when I lost my deck. Genuinely, my opponent turned one of game one he uses, but he, he uses trolley and doesn't venture Oppa Ghost or a Badu. His board is just completely locked. But like, he, he's like, the game is like taking forever because he is like not making any actions, but like it's taking forever, like. Because he's like poisoning stuff and like all like, and he has the baby Peck ran. So he is like killing stuff at first. And then I get into this nice board that I've tried in on ladder when I've like put people in spots like this where I had two pitch yachts and I was just like retreating between them and like bossing to stop him from like poison killing himself. He had lads in place so he could have like at any point stopped this like shenanigans by like just retreating and like keep trying to kill something. And then eventually he like almost killed he, he killed his baby pacran. But I made sure it happened into my turn and I had two flutes and Selene prepped to like get a non-op on the bench, non-op, non-bio. And I got something random and we still played for about 30 minutes. And I was, I was like, chilling.'cause I thought that like at some point I'm gonna cirrhotic him and like I'm gonna win. But at 30 minutes he just like randomly snapped and just realized like, oh wait, I'm not gonna win ever like this. And he just scooped, which I was hoping that he would just sit in the game for like, like I was not gonna show the heroic until like it was much closer to the end. And then I was gonna like Win with like five minutes left. I hoped, but oh well, five minutes. That is, that is, uh, that's a little too much for the cloth tank Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, you sco and then 20 minutes left, you have this ridiculous game where the cool thing about Laufer's Pig is when you pigeon out kill the cloth, you bump their stadium and they die a poison. So you like, it's, it's like a, like a really strong line. You're getting rid of their energy, you're killing their cloth, you're bumping their stadium, and it's typically coupled with an Iona to four and it's like so natural to do. But Office Iona to four, Andy's used Seal Stone already for the record and no body would play nothing. His, his five cards are actually literally perfect. He ends the turn with zero cards in hand, but he kills my page with Tropicals. And then, but he doesn't get a lot. He doesn't play, so he has two prize cards and a top deck. Oh. And he has an extra mochi in hand from his orang group. Sure. Then I cc his bonnet. He has switch card. I was like, no big deal. We're, we're super close to time at this point because the game had been going on in like a weird circle before this. So we're super close to time. I cc his bonnet again, and I sile and I double tail so I don't get the secret box on top because if I get a secret box on top, I can definitely CC him again, and like, there's no way this game ends in time Anyways, I miss, he switch cards again, and then I lose the game, and so we tie, I'm 5 1 2. I'm, I'm very, very, very tilted at this point. Like, I'm like inconsolably tilted, but it turns out, you know, never give up. Never backed up. Yeah. Just I, I gave about a little bit of a motivational feature. He was like, He came in and he was like, begging for sympathy. Like, this is so bullshit. And I was like, dude, you gotta lock in. You're still in contention. 5 1 2 is completely fine. That's not what Henry said to me at all. But that, that like, no, that's can, like, not true. This is true. This is literally true. No, this, okay. Like if we're gonna like, actually stick to the facts. I was like, can you guys some sympathy? And then Henry goes like, you know, like it's variance. Like this is what happens. Like, like losing your deck. Just like, I don't know, like you're just trolling. Like, I don't know. I he was, he was very unsympathetic, very believable. Sorry, I just s stopped left the call. I just s stopped left the call. I, I was actually just so frustrated. I was like, I, I like, I need to just be like consoled and then like, I don't know like how much talk about this. You're still in contention, dude. Like you were acting as though you needed like an obituary bro. But like you were still in the fucking turn. Dude, Henry is always Oh my, I I actually can't believe I just heard those words from Henry, bro. Yes, I know Henry X one is like busy bing for free in the call because he lost the last round and he. No. 7 1 1. He's like literally like the most complaining more than anyone you've ever heard in their entire life at 7 1 1. But like I'm X one two to like all these ridiculous factors and like, I'm just gonna, like, I'm supposed to just take it on the chin, you know? I'm still in the tournament. You know, I, I love this narrative of bond, like oh my. It's so true. It's so true. So anyways, gonna date two? I like, there was like a birth, no, no, there was like a birthday party for like one of the kids, uh, for like in tabletop, I guess Zelda, well she does, she's not in tabletop, but she's like really like, tightly, tightly connected with tabletop, I guess. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's actually good pull Henry.'cause um. Yeah, Derek told me she, he played against her dad at the New York Cup when Derek was just in New York for a week. Oh, okay. And so anyways, there was an open bar and I was very tilted And you know, I'm just saying like, I found that like I played better under like some weird conditions, you know? So I was, uh, and we were losing an hour's sleep to daylight savings. And I, and I didn't care. I was just so, I was like just trying to like, uh, but you guys are wondering why it bonds day two performance oftentimes drops off from the day one. You maybe now know the reason. It's too comfortable. No, I literally never do this, Henry. This is, that's actually the funny part. This is my first time when I still have day two to play, getting extremely drunk. So extremely drunk. My god. Alright. Anyways, I was like, the next morning I like barely woke up. Okay. This is like not true. I definitely like, I. I like, I was able to wake up like this was, I was like, low, keep pushing it there. I was like, able to wake up just fine. And then once the event, like normal person had like, um, like drink of water in the morning, like I was chilling. I was, it was not like, it was not actually like a flu game type performance. I was, I was feeling okay. I was feeling fine. So anyways, I played, played against the Guard and um, game one was really free. He tried, the clra did not work. Game two, I flipped eight tails on Seline. I went like, my first pad was for like IO and like some other car that I thought was just good. And then my next, I like Lene, Seline failed, failed, padded, both salines. And so I was down to pad two saline and failed, failed. And so I eight tails, but I was actually impatient. I lowkey just forgot that it's possible for my seline to get eight tails in a row. Like that wasn't in my calculation. So like, if I just like waited a little longer, it would've been way more comfortable. It like after this, the eighth si a saline tail hit. I was like re abouting my position. I was like, wait. Okay. I still win as long as he only has one rod and he, he only had one rod. So iic at the right time I own and like he had a rod, but I won by two cards, so that was kind of scary for a bit. But you know, all this like bad variances, it's not really that relevant. Like my neck is just too good. Was that the one That's what we're taking away from this. Okay, sure. It's all good. It's all good. Oh yeah, You think? What the fuck? a Sarah lunch? Yeah. Okay. And then I went Bedu pass turn one and, or no, he had for whole first turn I went Bedu pass on my going second and he just target to kill me. So I lost him. One in two was playing. There's so many charades. Dude. The one that does 20 damage for one Energy, I believe he has 70 hp, but I don't really remember. Oh, in your, oh, he's actually rewarded bro. Because I feel like the, like I was talking to him with Zing God before he was about to play I promise you he could have found Ledge evolve like him, bro. I don't dunno. I guess. I guess I didn't even consider any of that because I saw the 20 started it active, had no basics and I instantly scooped because the game was on board. So anyways, game two, I'm like thinking that this is gonna be so hard'cause I prized the big myotic, the myotic that stop Terrace from attacking it. He had Paul, he as an out, but I like, I was so concerned about what was gonna happen, but I just doubled down. He put spirit to him. By the way, I doubled down that like I'm not gonna try to like draw a prize card and like get big my loading like. Bad things will happen. There'll be too many guys on my board to Gus and like, I'm not gonna win that way. But I managed to like goad him into like, just keep killing my piggy with jet energies. Like, I was like, I sat there with my tur myotic and LA on a, on a tomb and this guy was like so impatient. Like didn't wait for a boss or anything. He just like jet energy. Greninja killed my piggy. And I was like, okay, this is this. That was terrible. But I was like, maybe I can get it to do it again. So like bossed and like, or CC'd I guess, and like best another pitchy and like healed and put a charm on my active, he like did it again. So he's taking, he's used two jets to take two prize cards, which is still fine. I, I somehow got him to like jet one more time. To not even kill a pitchy, just to kill a lax. Like, I, I don't even know, like if my opponent just like, stop. And like, and the best part was he was sitting next to me during my guardian opponent and he told me, he's like, I don't really know what you're playing, but you like, have someone on a saw block. I'm gonna be like, he said, he literally told me he's gonna be extra careful, you know? And like I was, we've been recently talking about like, if you lie to your opponent, like it's like you can get a penalty. And I was thinking like, you know, maybe you can get a penalty for this.'cause like he said he was gonna be extra careful and he was like extra, like risky. I don't even know. Like, he just completely used every jet for like, no reason. It was, it was a, it was a blessing, you know, like everything had to gone wrong for this point. And then when he used the third jet for no reason and took only one prize card, I was like, oh, I can just win this game pretty easily. And then I kind of got worried for a second that like, maybe I'm missing something, maybe like a hard switch on top of this. Like that's why he did it. But no, there was, there was no reason playing catcher, he playing the blender or what? He was playing Blender. Yeah, that's correct. Because yeah, I know that I think people thought the Prime shit shirt was better, like when Winding and Co were playing it. Yeah. And then game three, like he knows what's gonna happen, but I, he, like, first I start Water pond, he, his hand is so unfortunate. He has, he has a be he bench to squawk and he jets into it and then squawks away another jet and he forgets to retreat or something. I, I don't know if he forgot or like, he didn't think it was good, but he didn't retreat. So I like had DT e in hand and I just like got a piggy and just sobbed. And then I, I like got, because you know, I just have like two supporters in your hand for some reason. Well he also Ben spare it too, so like Oh, I was just kidding. I was completely locked into this line anyways. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah, you are correct. I did have Nest Ball Arvin and like an out to V or like two supporters and again, nest Ball two supporters. That's actually what, not the classic. Yeah, the classic. Yeah, like use Arvin Turn one Nest two. Oh, you're gonna turn two. Wow, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Not, not mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Henry's not mad, but he's like extremely mad. Anyways, got the opponent and I'll say he was very gracious. I told, I asked him at the start of round game two, which was kind of crazy'cause it was 45 minutes left if he'd be down a gentleman's, if we got to a game three and, and at this point a loss is outta the tournament and I tie maybe top three, two and he's like, um, yeah sure that seems reasonable. And he, he is feeling really good about that'cause he just won be very fast. So then like when we got down to a game three, he was out of jet energies and out of outs and he's only out was the boss by Melo twice. And hope I didn't have outs. So I just showed him that I had two water energies, a switch cart and a stretcher and the missed energy. And then he was like, oh, okay, well that's five retreating outs and a pitch IX so this was never gonna work. And then he skipped it up. So I like I have a lot of respect because like against you can just decide like at any point, not to just tie, but obviously he's hoping that like if he got to spot where he was winning to look enough jets left that like he, I was gonna scoop and like that's obviously the case. So like it's not just a free roll. Like he had some like, uh, he obviously has some compensation, but I don't know. Anyways, appreciate him scooping next game I play this a guard and I got rolled game one. I dunno how this one? No, no, I got rolled game one. Oh, surprised. Oh wow. I like, I just had a terrible hand just like, oh, you hold up a masterful one Oh technique on you or uh, no, this game took about eight minutes. So Thatt really work there, there are dogs who could get it done. I personally could not get it done, but I, I agree with you. There are dogs who could get it done. Yeah, I agree with you. But I think that if he tried that he would've been just short and then we would just tie it. Because I asked him after game two if he was down at Gens and he said yes. And when he was complete, locked in game two after about five minutes,'cause my hand was completely un unbelievably broken. He, um, he just scooped. So we had like 30 minutes for game two or game three. Yeah. Yeah. So this is why like, it was like a lost one win, but it was no gens because the first two games took like eight minutes to pop or something. Like, there was like so much time. We got, got deck checked and he was actually super chill. We were like playing a fun game. I, I had my like friends, like pul our deck that I used to like dismantle some of it, build my deck again. And we were just like playing a game where we'd like take, each person would take half the deck and we were like drawing, opening hands. So we saw like unfair stamp, but then we like, we like kept adding more rules. Like if someone had unfair stamp and the other person had like Zd Pul, that that was a win. But if someone had all three fires and the unfair stamp that could count, like it was just a, it was like a fun game. I don't know. I actually took like, kind of long, so it was pretty chill. I, I thought it was a fun game. Anyways, game three, he actually makes a huge mistake. He, um, he. He has the vacuum to charm to get rid of the charm, clef key or whatever, to k like I was locking clef key and he killed it. Um, he didn't put the clef down voluntarily. I had flu. And then he, um, he didn't use this opportunity to fix, he had, he like took a prize early with drifting, but he didn't use this opportunity like fix his energies at all. What he should have done was like, probably promote the drifting retreat into scream tail and kill my myotic and hope for no Turo after io me to fight, or sorry, not like hope for no like reset of melodic so he could Turo. So like he could io me, but he didn't do that. He just like already killed my water pond. So Mylo, I didn't play it. And I just like gusted again and I won. Uh, so that was pretty chill. And then the last round I played about that. Yeah, pretty bad spot, right? Because. And stretcher right off five and like, like obviously you have the pitch out to fill it, but like the chance of fitting the two is really unlikely. Secret box was in my deck, bro, but Oh, secret box deck, right. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Well, but I did make a mistake, Henry, you I was kind of messed up my, my as I lean and I didn't shuffle my deck that turn, which was really bad. So I let the secret box get into my hand, which was bad. Oh, I am, okay. Yeah, I see. Yeah, that's what I should have done was after I made that mistake, I should have instantly IOed to like fix my deck, like io then shuffle my deck. And so my deck is like, has, I had so many good cards in my hand, it was ridiculous. Like obviously io I actually drew like five terrible cards. You actually probably would've got you if you'd made the right player, right? Because that's like a lot of pressure. Oh, well you have to find a, you has to find Turo and I, I bench fez early, so. I would have been, we would've had a game. I would've basically probably piggy out a secret box and then fest and like, but yes, I like ruined my outs by like doing it like the way I did. So this bravery, charm, charm thing, like yeah, this, this lost vacuum charm thing is, uh, pretty good. I think it makes a match. I think if he did a bunch of other things right, he could have made the game very interesting. But obviously free removal no matter what. And also donating like that. That's pretty good. Yeah, he like, so then the next, he said he played two charm, right? Like two charms back flight. He played two charm in the back. He favorite? Yeah. I don't think it's favorite. That's completely ridiculous. I swear Henry like, oh my god. Favorite Henry, if you like to donate another$50, I'm super down. Anyways. I, okay, go ahead. Anyways, yeah, the next round of playing has a pull, uh, in game one I prized my four seal stone. So after like I had this like really nice secret box turn, but the problem was I could, like, I could evo into PTO there, which I did end up doing, but I had to put IO in my hand instead of Arvin for the seal stone. So I literally just had to draw PTO off io plus like, one is the charge before, like my board got destroyed. Um, yeah, we're playing was obviously gonna be me. Clearly not very reasonable, right? Yeah. So, yeah, I know, I know. But like that, that was, that was actually that turn took me forever. I would say that was probably my longest turn of the tournament.'cause I, like, I was looking at my hand, uh, I was my like second I guess. Yeah, I was my second. I was looking at my hand and I like had a clear plan during this entire turn of like what I was gonna do and I was gonna set myself up so perfectly. Like my, like I was gonna big my load, I was gonna evo and then have seal stone. I was basically gonna do the guard track because like his turn was kind of weak. And like, when that, when I realized Seal stone wasn't in deck, like it, like I had so many new plans going through my mind that it just like took me forever, like to do, but there, get to the pitch reliably, right. Definitely not. There was no way to like guarantee anything that I, I guess like IO or like Yeah, exactly. So anyways, I lost that game and then game two, I hit him with the Badoo, uh, nose osa because I didn't prize it, but Badoo set on my water pond, kill both dust goals. And then I had a really nice spot where later he had used one dust winner for something, and then I punched his, uh, pulp and he left it active even though he woke up and I just retreated into Bair to go down to one prize. And it was like, pretty much Check man, pitch you out. I went to one prize and yeah, he had like a duster on the bench and like a, yeah, and a dust bowl as well. So like, but I don't know, he like kind of, he, I think he could have done more stuff to like dust nor io or something, but yeah, I don't think he expected the bear. Anyways, game three, my pun was super down to gentleman's, which I have a lot of respect for, because at that time actually, like, I think a tie would've been one K each. But he was like, he had the right mindset. Like, you know, this is a, this is a pretty reasonable matchup. And like, uh, let's try to cut, right? Like. Let's, let's gentlemen and I, I, I think the out like of course, like if we, if we can't agree who's favorite, then we'll just tie.'cause like we'll both make one k like fine. Sure. But luckily he didn't leave it very ambiguous. He lumi for IO to like try to disrupt me and then he had used his Turo for like, Alex exam at one point just to like keep putting the pressure on. So when I CC Water Pond, his Lumi, there were no TURs deck. And so, and his dust north line was too thin at that point. Like he played a three two or 3 1 2, the standard and two candies. But he had like gone through too much stuff to like have any wind threats. So he was very gracious and like he did concede. It was funny. I would, I had like a 20 card hand when I CC'd water upon him, but I Iona just to like limit his options just so that like our discussion would be easier in our gentleman's because his hand was like bricked off the Iona. Well, I mean, it should be brick, right? It's like three cards plus one track look. So yeah, I thought, yeah, literal from a trap, like Yeah. Yeah. But I, it was just so that like his hand wasn't too big so that he couldn't like, cope too hard. Yeah. I don't know. I think it was like a good tech. I like added that to my back immediately. Uh, I played against, so I'm an Asim now. Pretty, pretty high playing against Lucia. Uh, I mean, last time I was in cut with I lost with Lucia, so I was a little nervous about that, but, and I had no information on his deck. He was like kind of some, like every other person in cut. I knew their deck pretty well, but Joe Filiana, like no one knew anything, right? All we knew was playing Lucia. It turned out his list is like even worse than, like, I could've even like imagined it didn't have water pond. It doesn't have weird ear, and it only has a one, one cina. So it's like, look at this. What's he playing? He has like, rads are luminous. It's like one of his things. He has bundle, but uh, his neck is just genuinely terrible. So he just, um, game one, I also, he like doesn't really understand that you're like. You need to be like preloading with arch ops, even though there's Giacomo because like your arch ops are gonna die. He like never really preloaded game one. And so I just like, he like went to four and then at some point he killed my Badu. So he went to three, or maybe this was not the game. Maybe game three is the one he killed Badoo. But anyways, he goes to four. I attached my bear and just like chill. He doesn't do anything for a turn. I think I like CCed his archos and just chilled and he doesn't do anything. I just like instantly DT Penny kill the archos. He doesn't preload anything. So his board literally has like one Lucia and like one archos with four energies and it's so easy. It's like penny cc Gigi from there. Um, he hits some bosses to make it close though. He like boss killed my couldn't pick it up in time. And then he did hit the first boss on my p on, but, so I guess there was like a, there was a window where he could have water upon me, but now knowing what I know, he actually does not play water pond. So I was chilling. So anyways, game one. That's game one. And then game two. Uh, similar, similar things happen, but I mess up. I think at some point I like allow a bundle to hit my pitch out when I could have like benched a blocks or something. Uh, like, I don't know, I just, like, I thought I was like super winning either way. So I thought, like, leave my board limited. I wasn't really sure like what the downside was, but I had seen the bundle, so this was a pure misplay by me, but then off Iona to one, he hit the, the boss. So I, I just needed him to not have it there and I was fine. It's okay. Uh, like I'd kill all his chops. Like after Diana one, I could've liked jock mode and then I've been fine. But anyways, I lost game two. And then game three I go first. And like he has like his worst hand in the series. He has like, he has to read the wind. I flew, but I miss, so his bunch is like, not full, but it has two loomie on it. So I guess, I guess I hit, I hit like two Mies off, two flutes. Wait. Oh, you did it. Oh, okay. I was like confused. I, I didn't get to lock, lock him out of chops. I guess. Like saying I miss is very dishonest. What the fuck? I don't know. I'm like so delusional. Okay. Like I actually thought, there's so many guys in there that I was like, I should lock him outta chops with the second I hit first. Not playing. A lot of the guys, I'm mostly like, I'm looking at his list. There actually aren't that many Well, I know this is what I was thinking at the time. Right. But like, I was just thinking like. He bench on Lumi voluntarily. I flew to a Lumi and like another guy, like a Lua and I was like, ah, dude, like I'm one foot away from just winning and he's just chilling. So like, let's just do it. And then I missed. But this game was the most comfortable, this is the most comfortable game by far because like I just like went on the prize trade at the end. I like secret box. I like pride secret box. I drew it off my, like on my three, four prize cards. And then I like switched balls. And then I also lee in like really, really like really fast fashion. He knew to like to shut the piot after the mist comes down and like it was really uncomfortable. Game two, he actually prized the peck ran and I had a lot of owls, but I like could not set up a piot. This was like the first time where like, I'm not under any duress, no item lock. He even put the hooks up and play that I'm spinning every turn and like I just cannot get anything together at ice lose. So that's my tournament. Pretty lit, pretty lit. Pretty lit. We're all very proud of our friend. The top eight. Pretty cool. Yeah, hopefully this episode airs on unlike Henry's, uh, It's all good. I'll just be winning another tournament just like Pokemon and then this time ob. Hello? Hello. Let me into a Stockholm, please. It's my bad. I definitely was supposed to reg, I didn't really think about it until like last week. You were such Henry. If you had asked me, I would've told you to register. This is my favorite lie, That's very useful and constructive. Thank you for sharing Dude. It's no bullshit, dude. Like I have, like, we can take, we can take something away from this in the future. We ask Liam and we listen to whatever he says. Hmm, Liam, should I go to Brisbane? Should I go to Brisbane? Nah, I don't think so. You made that. Oh, okay. He's balanced. He's balanced. Well, it's, um, it's also sold out as a lot. I was so desperate. I I was so desperate. I checked too when we couldn't get into Stockholm. I really wanna play this X through another event, but Yeah. Well, I mean, like, I, I have like, I already listed essentially like a hundred zeros the entire format and it's just gonna have to like, sit in raw. Well, not really am I, Henry, Henry says this every single format, but then if you look at what you, it was ang, I didn't say it for UICI, I literally did not say it for UIC. So you're Yeah, that's true. Whenever I say that's true, I trying was actually good. And like this time you're, your Toronto was so bad too, by the way. Well, it, the mall was really smart, but the stamp is so bad. Fair stamp was bad. Yeah. And like I lo I got like, I bricked and lost. It was deserved for playing on fair stamp. I mean, those bricks were like a little egregious, even by bricking standards, but it's all good. Um, but yeah, this time, you know, we, we did, we're not playing the stamp obviously. We, we are definitely not doing that. Um. Yeah, I mean, like I, I was really, I was a little disappointed in Vancouver. Like I thought Gardy definitely should have done better, but I feel like people's lists weren't that great. And also there was some questionable gameplay when I was watching Onstream, so was hoping that I could go ahead and give it a full ride at Stockholm, but seems like that's not gonna be the case. But I think, oh, by the way, if anyone's wondering, oh, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Sorry. Sorry. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead. I was gonna say that like if the two more analysts that were like the most pop, like the two best ones I think were like me or like Caleb Rogerson, he had, um, the vacuum that, that can be annoying because the charm, like if they don't play vacuum, the charm is going everywhere somewhere. concept where like every, it's a thing on the road game, right? What do you mean every, no, no, no, no. At some point when you've drawn enough of your deck, it lets you like charm your lax so that your lax doesn't die when the hand hits the third energy or the mu the third energy. It's, it's, which is very helpful. The rod is like the lets you Yeah, of course it stays on the rodo for like a while, but like Yeah, exactly. You understand? Yeah. But like, you can win obviously by like milling, like, uh, or like catching something off flu, right? That's like the easiest way to win. But like, you can also, like, they have to have all their energies in deck and good board management and like, even then it's like kind of close. If they're able to win with only one switch cart, I'm not really sure because like some of the Pokemon one, when they get their last energy, they don't kill you even after charm. Like Riku doesn't kill you if you only have two locks at the IQ point. Point. It's, it's, uh, yeah, it's perfect math. Yeah. So anyways, um, that, and then the Azo list is so terrible for you. It has two switch cards, prime catcher and canceling cologne which is just ridiculous. Like, oh my god. Oh, you kind self, right? Yeah. It's, it's a tricky one to play for sure. What did they come from? Their deck? I'm looking at this aula. It's actually pretty Oh, the Pikachu, the secret box. Yeah. They, they cut all the Pokemon. There's no Lajas, right? Oh, there's no Lato. No, LA is wild. Wow. This guy hates Ma. Holy shit. Well, this guy kind of hates guard war. He's got the clone in here for the clef key and he's got the seven switch out for the mal Man. It's, it's a ridiculous list. I mean, I think it Goddess deserved place, but like, I'm not really sure. Topic. Yeah. Seems was reasonable. Seems, yeah, it seemed like it's like a topic two list, but I don't know. It was, I, I was listening a little Bit's podcast and he was saying like he thought this was broken and like, I mean, clients didn leave when he says stuff like that, but I don't knows. Pretty good. I mean, the Defi fan was good. I was telling them to play the def fine fan, bro, that that was actually way too lit. Yeah, dude, this Maria Miranda Indexings pretty good. Like if you just like assume turn one amp, like the deck like, which is like not ridiculous. It's like, it's pretty good. Like I thought Lotio in secret box like really helps doing these things, but I'm not sure. Yeah, I. I agree. Like does deck feels so much better when you can just like bench everything. Right? And like, you thin your deck out so much with the, for the generators, like it's like this deck feels too straightforward and a little too honest, but I'm not sure it a m the deck deck function is so much better, right? I this deck is like far more dishonest than like the secret box version. No, but I'm just saying the prime picture and stuff and more being straightforward. It's like more like yeah, it's how hoping that go right naturally. And then it's trying to win like a, a real game as opposed to just like running them off the board in like two turns, right? Like yes, like I'm, I'm going to hit prime. Like that's what I need. And like I don't, I thought it was, that's, I think it's a good, I actually really like the list, but I don't know if I would describe this, but I'll say like the guango matchup by the way is like super, super free. Um, I'd say Guango after guard war is like your next best matchup. So I thought it was wondering like, well bro, they're saying all the memos are playing Rigid band after this, bro. Oh, rigid band. How's that Helpful Defiance band with the rigid band. Oh. Oh, you're gonna them right on? Yes. Wait, you saying they're going banned for band? Yeah. Yeah. This is actually generational. This a great poll. Not scripted. Not scripted. It's actually not scripted. I dunno how you said it. This kind of stuff can only have occur naturally random, like randomly. But yeah, I'm looking at Kai right now and I'm just saying this, our guy, he was playing scuba cycle and not prime picture like Brent, so I was gonna beat him a Neil was playing no dust star, so I was gonna beat him. TRV Reed, I was gonna beat him. Robinson had vacuum, so close one. Bui, I did not beat him. Zing, I was for sure gonna beat. And Drake is like. Is actually so good at the game that, and Drake is like the person I played ghost. Never being, you'd never, ever, ever. No, no, no. I don't agree. Okay. I'm complete agreement with Henry, bro. He has to win one of two games. Your FZ, it's cut rules. It's Drake and it's Atch. We're like, wait, how do we like, I'm sorry. Okay. I always wanna say like, okay, I agree. I actually think obviously Drake is the favorite. And I'm just saying like some of the factors that are interesting. Drake is the person before this event I'd played the most of the matchup with, and like, I think the matchup is pretty like, I don't think it's as bad as these guys are saying it. I think that that finals would've been really, really fun to watch. I think Drake would've probably won. But I'm just saying that like, this is not like Drake would've just rolled me over, bro. I think that would've been like a banger, like a generational DR. For like just, just a generational Drake finals, you know, like NAC loans. We got it. Generational finals, bro. Oh my God. Oh my. Like no, that's true, but like holy moly, dude. He was. Yeah, but like this final, I kind of, I I, it's like kind of not that sick when you remember that like, game one he loses and game two, he's, he's like super supposed to lose, like thing played and then like, yeah. Game three is like honestly kind of a, like a terrorist maneuver too. But I mean, he played Yeah. And game three's like he played it well, but like that game like low key just plays itself. Right? So like, but like lost No, no, no, no. Should have lost Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I don't like the area you're spinning right now. Drake is top one A I mean world know, but I'm just saying that I think the potential of me, me Drake finals was way higher in terms of like hype ness. No, but I don't know you fucking bad dude. And your entire shit was gonna get gone. And then game two, no bet. You'd actually get a page add up and you'd still lose and it's like, okay, well I guess we No, no, that's ridiculous. I would've got page up one of the games and won. And then Drake would've like done some time trick on me where he like perfectly manipulates the clock, takes one prize in the right turn and then goes like dust or dust or cecc. I, I had by one prize Gigi kid and then that in it. Yeah, well anyway, like it's really easy to say all these things we like, we're saying the same thing. I think Drake is gonna win, but I think that that would be the thing. No, like the way you're saying it, like you haven't, I told before, that's not like a banger, but like first of all, it's not a banger. Second of all, you have not sat across from Drake at a major, especially in Top Cut. It does not feel good. You're not like, oh, this is like a, oh, you wait. Henry actually has like firsthand experience. Do you wanna tell us about that? Henry? Like, yeah. Yeah, like I, how much Aura did he have? Like I had him at top and IC like, this is when like, I didn't really like know that much. Like I didn't know a lot of people. I was like, oh, Andrew Hedrick, apparently this unc, you know, he wanted I hope there's like no dead horse in the audience because they're certainly being beat, bro. That's for sure. Dude, I'm not even like Liam is the one who says this stuff. Like I, you know, like me, like I just re facts here. I'm just wondering. It just felt hopeless. Like it, I, he just like, I could have dropped a mani you to block his ninja and I just didn't. I blinked and then my curlys were gone. I'm like, oh my God. Oh my god. No drink. No. Does this even sound high level to anyone listening? Like, oh, I did a bench man, and then he gr oh my god, he you on guy. Subtle details, right? Things that look obvious becomes subtle details. And you're drag, bro. Like most people, like don't expect like the wash box deck to work that well. And then Drake starts cooking though. Cook the vacuum thing. Like, dude, I, I had did, fuck, I dunno. I was like, I, I like played against Ani and like, that was easy. I, I feel like you would know this bro. Drake Obox bro. Like. He like shatters, like worldview, right? This is like 2012. LeBron on the heat, dude. Like this is like actually ridiculous, right? Like he, he's playing lost. It's the big trick. Okay. Okay guys. Okay. Alright. I, I failed that. But like I said, some of that well just like, not ridiculous to say that, right? It's not, it's not. I'll say though that his, um, his game against, like his, gave me AAL game too, and like also his, uh, oh my god, his game against Trevor Reed. Those are, those are some like, like he's Drake never, he never flinches. He is. Always, always. So present, dude. Okay. Please. I'm actually getting a headache though. Just like, please. Anyway, we like come back at the end of the tunnel every single time. Even if the tunnel is like so, so long. Bullshit, man. I like some, you know, I don't even understand how anyone walks out to me and says they miss the trash lunch.'cause like, this is like what our like, like our first years of Like, alright, alright. Like, I literally dunno how anyone could like miss this at all, but, okay. Well, no, no. Our podcast is amazing. Um, I think full ownership of it, we should have some really? Is that true? Because I remember like after you won the event, like San Antonio, you like went on the shift gear and said trash lunch is trash at like, like the name. And like, I never wanna do that podcast again. I remember you saying all that. I, I've taken over production duties now, so there's no worries. The episode will actually published Dude, I hope this ever gets aired just so that like, this will be like the funniest thing I've ever heard. Like it was like unreleased episode that like had like masterclass by me and this is like, no one has ever heard I even say that. I just said I to cover recording meeting. Okay. Okay. I, I am, I'm glad we, we need like an experience like veteran voice walk room over recording Literal my life, but No, I'm aware. You're just like old as shit Sure. I've actually cut it down to maybe like, stream because I, I like, I've been like, I've been getting a little bit mad behind the scenes'cause you know, I don't, I don't have any events to go to. I couldn't make Vancouver and then I, I miss Stockholm, right? You're gonna start streaming. Henry. I might need to like, challenge people to money matches and then stream it so I can like, feel something with this format. Format. I. S stack of shit, so We'll yeah, know it's a z. Oh no, no, dude. Henry new pc. Maybe I stream and we'll play, we'll play like Chip and stuff. Pc, I'll host it. Profits or what? Yeah, Henry, like, uh, you've actually won two this year. Ad revenue. What the fuck? Yeah, you've want two majors this year. So like, we have to like, distribute the products, like the profits in less fortunate Okay, bro, you've cashed last two events. I don't want to hear shit, bro. Like I not cash much, dude. You, it's Casey. The four boxes in my room, bro. It's like a whole extra band. Like, I never even like realize like how, like how much it is like Yeah, it's just like for this set, like this set is like insane for some reason I don't really follow the collecting stuff that much, but yeah, this like the stellar crowd is like trash, I'm pretty sure. But, uh. Well, yeah, you just chose like, I know when to win, you know, not even win, I just know what to do. Well. Oh, okay. Good. Good. I won one in in uh, oh God. What even, what was it? What did I get at Baltimore? Was it Masque? Yeah. Was this because it, the shredded table was a mini set, right? So I guess it must've been, yeah. Twi Masque. What the fuck? That's terrible. Um, I'm gonna wait. So that means you could have helped me out. If you're at this event, you could opened up your three boxes and got a myotic from me, Beth. Dude, you know, I like, I would literally open that shit and like throw it into a fire right in front of your face with all due respect. And I wouldn't let you get the burned remains so you could get to Judge Proxy. I would like ate it. Okay. I was literal. You actually read me so Well that doesn't even matter. Like all I have to do is like take the ashes and I'm chilling. I. Okay. Um, okay, so yeah, we're not gonna Stockholm, like ab and I, Liam's gonna Stockholm'cause he's, he's living in Europe now, so, uh, I dunno. Yeah, and Liam's like having like a complete identity crisis because sometimes we're checking a good performance for him. DraftKings, or no, no, no. Lemme make you very clear. No, no. Lemme make it very clear. If it's Liam guy plays like anything that isn't like a, like a serious, serious patriot deck, I don't expect anything from him. If he plays a serious Patriot deck, I think he's top four for sure. But like If he plays like something like, okay, alright. Yeah. I said, yeah, tech already. Dude, this guy is just like saying anything, bro. Like, oh my God, I, no, it's, I, I, I have good chances too, bro. Like, it was like, no, no. I'll bet money, I'll bet money against Liam on Dragon Pool. Not because Liam's bad at Dragon Pool. I just like, I just don't believe it. You know? Like that's like, you're just like blaming him and saying like, oh, but not because he's back. Like, what the fuck? Like, what does that Well, yeah, but then can't him back, can't him back, bro. It's like, like I, I don't think a bond is like, seen me, see me in tournament that much, bro. Like, I, like even, I like sometimes when I play too much on my own, like, and I'm not in an event. I like start to doubt myself, but then I get into tournament time and like tournament time. William is not, oh my God. Do not, do not open up Liam's limitless page from this year. Any event. That's not Orlando, bro. I like, oh no. And don't just not open up his limitless. Make sure not to open up his PT ladder.'cause then like then there's a real horse in there. Be Jesus Christ. Man. I'm, bro, I'm just, I'm just itching to like play with the cards again. Tournament time, Liam. It doesn't even last the whole tournament by the way. Like when you like don't or whatever. Yeah. Highly tournament time. Liam is like half a tournament, bro. Like, damn, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, bro, like, obviously once we get to the end, it's like ridiculous that they have us playing for so long. Like, you know, we're, we're a little bit tired. Right. But like, bro, I just feel, I'm like, it's like, it is like when I'm most alive, like, especially when I'm on that bubble, bro. And I like. You know, do or die every single round, bro. Yeah. He loved being O2 star. Like, this is so high. We're on the bubble. We have to win from here. Like, God forbid, he just has like a cruise to dude. Oh my God. I'm like, oh my, I'm so excited for stock, bro. Like no matter what I played, played, you had like two tournaments. Top fade have been both sides of the spectrum. I had the LA where I was like never missing cut and I scoop my last round and I had like the, I was 5 1 2 have to win like every single round. There is no way you prefer the stupid bubble thing where like every single round you like look at your opponent, like, are you gonna make us tie and like, we're just gonna like, yeah. Cut. Or I think I might have beyond Liam's side, I mean like in retrospect like, like going like through the gala, it's like fucking lit, dude. Like what do you mean? Like both my events, it's only lit. It's only lit if you got to at the end and you got to do a cheat code and you're like, oh yeah, we're gonna make it to the gala. Like, okay. Like, yeah, like if the question is, Hey, would you rather spend the day two at nine over seven two? Like, yeah. Like, no fucking shit, dude. But like, I, I think what Liam is saying that like, you know, like compared to the average, all the feelings associated with being in the golf, I feel alive, bro. I feel more alive on the bubble. I hate it. I, I like having a game to give, bro. I like having a game to give. Well, dude, no, that's exactly the thing, bro, is like, when you have that game to give you, like, start to get complacent, bro, you're like, oh, like, uh, it's okay if I lose this one, I hate No, no, it's not okay. If you lose this one, like You gotta stay like locked in, bro. Like I'm most locked in when like, yeah. You don't understanding though, like I, I dunno, I feel like such despair, like even middle of the set when I have nothing to give. Like, I don't have a game to give. And like, I know I can feel that I'm about to lose. Like, I feel such despair like washing over me mid game, bro. It's like actually like terrible. It's like terrible mental. And I like, don't agree, like, it's not a good thing to do. I'm just saying that happens to me, bro. But like, I, I don't know man. Dude, I'm just like addicted to like that tournament experience, bro. I, I like, even though it like, feels like bad, I like. I love the feeling, bro. I like, oh, Turner are lit. I mean, Turners are like, turner are lit thing ever. I mean, yeah. What the fuck? I mean, that's why I need to get stuck on Hello Pokemon. You know, I was telling people this like, bro, dude, people do not agree with this, bro. Like, I was telling someone like, major's like the best part of life, like, they're like actually the most lit shit ever. And they're like, no, bro, you like, you're just like a kid that you don't understand. I'm like, no, bro, I think you don't understand. You parents in Seattle. I'm like, yeah, I don't know if that's gonna be, no, it was like, uh, outside, outside to like Chano and Derek who like, just the two, like complacent. Yeah. I mean, I, I, right. Sorry. I mean, yeah, I don't know. It's like the best thing, like the reason why we travel for weekends and like do this shit. Right. Like it's pretty fun. I think most memos like, well, there's a lot of memos that hate the game is a thing. Right. But well, like, yeah, and there's like some members that are like, can't play the game for like a calendar year too. So like, like, like when you grow up, you're kind of like told, or like you're, you're just sort of under the assumption that like, you know, like surely there's like a lot of people that like enjoy the game, right? Like, you know, they play the game a lot, right? Like surely. No, bro. Like if you play like maybe one, maybe two hours a day, you play more than like, all but like 15 players already, bro. Like there, there's literally like, I, I dunno, Liam, I like, I used to agree with the sentiment more, but I think we're actually entering like a shift, bro. I actually think that like the, I, I looked at cut, right? I was like, tell this to my friend, like cut everyone on that list plays a lot. Or like, not everyone. Sorry. Sorry. Not everyone. I remember like the, the exceptions, right? Like I don't know anything about Joe Filiana, so I won't comment on that at all. But I knows obviously plays a ton. McConney plays a good amount I think, right? He like just, I don't, I'm pretty sure was a lot. Yeah. Label Bella. I don't know anything. I don't know anything about. I've been talking to Lobel more'cause he plays a lot of Valant. I don't know how much he plays whatever. Hiroshi. Takeda, he's Japanese so he must play like the game more than anyone else. And then like Il probably put, he plays a good decent amount. I don't dunno anything about Trevor Reid. So no comment. Uh, Caleb Broderson plays a ton. Lee wi a ton. Zin plays a ton and Drake plays a ton. Like plays a ton. I mean, I wouldn't even say Drake played a ton, bro. Dude, he plays so many like private games, bro. Like, I think like, it's like comparable. Not a ton. Dude. Dude, there's levels obviously don't more much like I don't, bro, like not an hour or two a day. Like that's too low. Like there's like, they play like more than that. You think Drake plays more than two hours a day? No. No, no, no. No way. Well, uh, I guess like, I don't, I don't think played last week. It's like probably zero, right? Like Sure. Okay. I, I, I guess like, first of all, this is final week, but second of all, like, I would say that like, if you're watching intently and like talking about like, like watching someone play and like group talking about the plays with em or whatever, I think it's like close enough that's Iam, so all counts as like time. But like, I mean. Okay, whatever. I'm the same, but like, it's like gonna get more and more extreme. Like I was the, the sample started better when it was like, Caleb Rodder, zing likes me. Roshi, Takeda. I was like, these are like some, well, you like completely made it. You said like the olive cut and then you like named like MCC five and then you made up like two Macon. Yeah. No, no. Okay. Okay. I, I remember thinking when I like started the, like when I started like this thought that like there was more, but then I like looked at the list like just now again and I was like, I don't know. I'm not sure if they like play as like as much as I thought they did. Yeah. There were more than someone was asking me about this and I definitely, definitely played more than them. Like the person who was asking me. So I was like, this guy plays more than you. They were like asking like, how do you like cut events and stuff? I was like, this guy plays more than you. This guy plays more than you. This guy plays more than you. Like you play the fucking game, bro. That's like, that's a cheat code. And I was like, get you. Don't play ridiculous. This narrative that like, oh, like a bond and like me and trick, like they play the game bare. How? How come whenever? I'm like asking if anyone wants to play it. Like, ah, not fake. Liam. Is this a serious comment from you that I don't play the game like a ton? Is this like serious? Well, like probably pretty bad. We have to say anything. Don't even worry about it. This is actually one of the worst comments I've ever heard about. Like, what are you talking about? Like, uh, I'm not sure if you know my live name, but I'm one of the like five people in the world apparently who said 2K elo. Wow. So, wow. So plays, we work this all. Yeah. Well, I do like, I, I don't know. You, you have like, period, like Yeah, I guess I would say every, all of these players have periods where they play the game a lot, bro. But like, I can, I can't take a break breath. I like literally cut an event, bro. I'm like the, the week after, I still played with you yesterday and like today I am like, yeah, I don't wanna play. Like, we're gonna record the pod and then I have to, I have to play more games at TT v today and like do all this and that. Like, I don't wanna play the game right now. And like, oh, I'm bumed. He like doesn't play. Okay, bro, this is ridiculous. This is actually, this a reasonable narrative, bro. No, nobody actually, no. Like literally, if someone's making like a trash list, most ridiculous comments, everwhere timestamp, whatever moment it is right now, and put that in the, the compilation. This is actually like, this is an outrageous comment, dude. Put compilation, like, it's fine. Let the people decide, bro. Let's generally, like what I was saying earlier is like completely valid, bro. Like, this is like the off season and like, no, nobody likes to play during the off season, bro. I guess I'm like the only guy who likes to play during the off season. I can't even play post row on ladder, bro. Like, what do you want me to do? Are we gonna talk about rotation? Uh, yeah, rotation is, we can, we can wait completely. Who even knows anything about rotation, row rotation? Nobody knows anything. Yeah. Nobody knows anything. Okay. Okay. Do we expect and the people who do know Henry don't wanna share it? Yeah. Obviously if you, if you look at like the list that are like doing well in Japan and like all that stuff, you can just take like one look and you like understand that like these decks are like not very serious. Like obviously like the format is not like fleshed out yet. Well before. Try to build a deck. This farm just like cancel, like all the cards are terrible. So I mean, like that's like, that always happens after rotation, but like, like you can make so much better deck this being put out right now. Okay. Okay. So at uh, at the first regionals in eu, where do we have an, where there's no regs. What the hell? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so you're not even gonna get a chance to show you. Oh, oh, actually one Milwaukee last thing I wanted bring up. I just thought, like, wondering what you guys think about this. So like a lot of people are saying that the point threshold is gonna be 700, like roughly. And like, I don't actually, like, I don't have any math or like any reason to believe that's true or not, but like, even if that is true, like let's just take that to be a fact. Like do we rock with this? Do you think 700 was like a challenging number to hit this year? Dude, I have like no opinion on these things. Like, I don't even like really know what I mean. Obviously, like you probably know my opinion worlds is like too big. It should, it should have been like a maybe. Yeah. They should just take regional winners. They should just take regional winners. Are you in Bay Range right now? Me? Not right now. Not right now. Okay. Okay. Not because I like, I'm like actively checking on Liam as a hater. I like just recall, like seeing his name next to Bradner at like five 30. Wait, does Bradner not, that's not possible, right? He's not invite range starting remotely. Brad Bradner doesn't like do locals, so Yeah. Okay. I. I mean, yeah, I, I think like 700 seems, well, I mean like you can't even compare it to last year because it like changed all the well, okay. I do think the way that they give it, like, I don't wanna really necessarily agree with this like steep top eight thing, like where a top eight is like a hundred more points. Then all the points within top eight are like the same, like getting first at, I agree, 50, like 3 25. Like, I, I think you should be totally rewarded for like winning your ASIN match and losing to, to, to a bomb. I think that's like, should be like the most rewarded thing in, in the system doesn't really make any sense. But on March 8th and I. This is so just like, because my reg winds aren't even like that good. Like they're like, they're like, I think you get 300 for a top eight and three 50 for a reg bro, three 50. They should make it. So you need like one point to qualify for worlds and you get one point for winning regionals and you don't get points through any other method. Like I, I actually think that was Drake's idea. I think that's like an incredible idea. I don't think that's what Drake's idea was at all. Drake did not say that Li was putting words in his mouth to like canceled. He said something that inspired that idea. So you're trying to make and into an elitist, I think well, no, I mean I've been calling for a long time and Drake has like changed ever since running his fourth regional. Do you know what that's a reference to Henry? Yeah. No. Oh, there's this guy after Liam went Orlando, who said, like, I've been following Liam for a long time, and he was never this elitist before. This make, before this win. Little, little para. No, not just that. Like, literally like, I think Liam like looked or something and like, he would like either just like followed him or like, pretty recently and like never heard of the guy. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if he's like, as a long time Liam follower, if he's like, still following Liam. No, no, bro. He's gonna hear this. No, it's, I, I didn't, I don't like know when he followed me, bro. But like, if he had followed me for a long time, he would know that like, bro, like I, I never switch up, right? Like, dude, that's what Drake keeps saying. I like, I've been saying all these crazy things after like this event and he's like, oh, well I thinks this because the only topic. I was like, no bro, I was saying all of this on Friday before anything, I was saying this, it's hard. You could go, it's hard. Like you, you would, like, you used to say like 90% of things, but now you just say like anything, right? Like, no, you bro, like, you, you like say everything with like someone much more conviction bro. Like. It's like you, you have, that just means you're like, you're like reading between the lines. Like that means you just don't think, I believe what I was saying before. Like, oh, I mean, I'm saying the same thing and now you're saying, I'm saying with more conviction. You're like, like reading into the tone because like, it was complete, like projecting bro, complete projection. Nah, it's not narrative. It's not like, no. Yeah, Henry, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like fine. Like, like I, I, you know, I always take my opportunity to say anything like, well that's not true. I mean, it's understandable, bro. After, after you got like, uh, you know, a top eight, like, you know, you kind of feeling yourself. Lost my deck. Lost my deck. Top eight. Like double bla, double double, you know. Thank you. Thank you. Lost my top eight. That's different breath. That's different. Well, eight tail top eight, six tail saline. Top eight. Lost my topic. I do, yeah. I actually think that was like ridiculous man. That was really good run. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. Let's, uh, to chew on that, I guess. yeah. Back. We'll, uh, probably talk to you guys after stalk him, you know, maybe I'll be there. Probably, yeah, we'll steam out if Liam taught me, we'll obviously have an episode, but like, I'm pretty sure if Liam, that's bad and we're gonna crash out. We need to hold ourselves accountable. Like we, we can't just be only recording after we win, dude. Like, that's fucking bullshit. Like, and then have like a 50% chance of even like having the recording go out. This is how we get out three podcasts a year, which is our current trajectory. So, yeah. Okay. So we'll, we'll be, uh, I mean, we have six top eights a year. Is that even, would we even take that? No way. That's too low. Six top eights aren't we like already close to? Well, uh, okay. No, I'm just saying like, that's our projection though. We'd have like six top eight a year. Yeah. Yeah. Like three because of 50. 50. Yeah. Yeah. Six. I mean, if we're only going to like around 10 events a year, that's too low. Yeah. I think we could do better than that in a, in a calendar year. There's no way. Well, actually, now that I think about it. That's probably just like this season combined. All three of us are probably gonna have, like, we, we just have three combined top eights right now. Right? Like that's actually not really good, dude. Like of course I understand what you're saying, but I think this is like, we're a low rolling this year. Yeah. I mean it depends how good Henry does. If Henry does really good then um, Henry, Henry close up the season strong. Then we, we have more dude if Liam starts playing like, like, or like some ridiculous dex to events spell and then like complaining rather than like we'd be chilling. And not to mention Liam is definitely low role. Like let's talk about Liam's year. He had like same 60 with Jeremy Gibson. Like Jeremy saw some off this list and like Jeremy had Aon and Liam only got 35th. That was a low role for sure. That was a low role. That guy was so good. And then like Toronto, Liam, like Hassan gave Liam this broken list again, like Liam keeps getting hand these broken list out of nowhere. And then Hassan ta made it and Liam like, Laurel, like Liam's had a Laurel year. Like the Liam is not a zero top cut caliber player. He's like actually like hella good. I don't know. Like I don't wanna see any Liam disrespecting year honor. Oh, crash out bro. Oh my god. Yeah, I'd say like on average we had like five, eight a year, like, uh, sixes, maybe a calendar year five. Calendar, another shot, bro. I like, I I, I mean another shot. I like can't wait for Stockholm, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And I can't wait for these next events. It's uh, yeah, UIC was really bad, so it's, it's gonna be a long time, but once we get there, alright guys, you'll be winning. So put it on your calendars. Alright. I believe in Henry and Liam. We'll get 10 top base this year. See you guys later. I don't think that's possible. Okay. Calendar.